No Bunt Courtesy??

no, you do not bunt late in the game when the opposing pitcher has a no-hitter. thats just bush

I don't know nothing about that cortesy rule, but if I am the coach or the player of a team without a hit in the four inning, I'll try to bunt, not because I want to get a hit, but because I want to get a man on base. now if is the last inning of a not hitter game, I don't think I'll do.

Of course you bunt if you can get a hit. The Padres did it in the eighth inning a few years ago to break up a no-hitter against the Diamondbacks. The best thing for the opposing team to do is throw the runner out. A no-hitter is earned. Not gifted. And that includes bunts.

lol thats funny, for me when im on the field i want the other team to hate me. especially in high school. yeah you bunt, you mean give up?

If we're way behind maybe not.

yeah thats true, if subs have been entered and its the last inning or so.

It happened to my player
More then once in HS.
The last inning of the game once.
I wouldn't dwell on it
To long it means nothing in the long term.
I don't blame a player at anytime wanting to get on base anyway they can.
Its a part of baseball.
Until the last out of the last inning you give it your all.
EH

So for half of the game, you don't use an offensive weapon? In the sixth inning is it bush if you hit a duck off the handle and run hard to first base? In the seventh is it bush to swing? It ain't over til it's over and the bunt is just one way to get people on base.

I think the word bush is are should be used for a team that is way ahead by more than 10 to 15 runs and there still stealing and bunting in the game.
With all the starters.
That would be bush.
Not a team loseing trying to get back in the game.
EH

Of course you bunt, you try to get on base anyway possible. No-hitters are thrown by pitchers, but executed as a team. Besides the fact you never give up, there are very few times that you can practice a "specialty" in a game situation. Who knows, there may be a time when a player gets up to bat and you need a bunt, and he says "I've done this before". A game is played out-by-out, but what is learned during the coarse of a game is carried through your baseball life.

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No-hitters are thrown by pitchers, but executed as a team

Absolutely correct. Unless the pitcher strikes out all 27 (or 21 in HS) batters in a perfect game, the team has to do something behind them. If a pitcher has a no-hitter against me, I purposely do bunt, I wouldn't think second of it. And if the opposition thinks it was "bush", well, then I did my job because I probably got on base and now they're just crying over it. Giving up like that is completely out of line and can never happen, I don't care how many runs your team is down. Bush plays are sliding with your spikes up, stealing up 10 runs, throwing at hitters. There are trick plays that are run that are considered bush league plays. Bunting in a situation where your team needs baserunners is smart baseball. Not bush.

throwing at a batter with a 3-0 count so your SO to walk ratio still looks good. now thats bush.trying to get on base is baseball,when you stop trying to do that. i guess that's bush too.

Have we forgotten that the game of baseball is about having one more run than the other team at the end of the game ???

What does it say when you lay down just because the kid is trying to get a no hitter?/

I thing is to get on base and score and than means get on base by any means that you can


OF COURSE YOU BUNT !!!! And then steal second

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Originally posted by Brem:
Has anyone ever heard of a "courtesy" to not bunt after the 4th inning in a no-hitter of a HS game?

I am just a little league coach, but I would definately consider bunting in a no-hitter.

After the 4th? That's crazy. Maybe if your down 10 runs in your last inning. With three innings to play get on base any way you can.

If I'm the batter in the last inning down 10 facing a no-hitter, in my mind it's either do or die...I'd better get that hit. The last thing I want is to get no-hit.

The bunt "courtesy" in with a no hitter going late in the game is one of those "unwritten" baseball rules. As Jemaz notes above a bunt was laid down late in a MLB game a few years ago with a "no-no" going and there was lots of sreamin' about it. But, I'd have to say if you're playing the game and want to win, this is one of those "traditions" I don't understand.

It's not about the victory. It's about the pride and self-confidence to not give up.

A no-hitter is a real aomplishment. It is when a defense (mainly a pitcher, but not only) shuts down an offense. Bunting is part of the game. If a teams weakness is a slow third basemen, and I have a speedster, I'd drop the bunt sign, especially if we are in a close game. If I was the batter, I would do it also. Never been in the situation, though. And, if I was the pitcher, I wouldn't want the no-hitter being handed to me. Because if you're not going to bunt for the hit, your not swinging your best either.

Another line of thought...

If a defense is going to sit back and protect the no-hitter by cutting off groundballs in the hole why shouldn't the offense take what's given to them, and bunt for a hit.

I can not think of 1 reason why bunting would be thought of as taboo.

Ok let me throw this at you - you have a kid at the plate who knows the game and is very competitive. He comes to the plate and knows the pitcher has a no no (some kids have no clue they are being no hit)and he sees the first and third basemen playing way back. The pitcher throws the pitch and this smart, competitive kid squares to bunt and misses, fouls it off or pulls back because it is a ball.

Now as the coach in the third base box do you tell him not to do it or tell him to come to you so you can tell him not to do it or do you help defend him if the other team / fans start yelling bush league?

The only way a smart and competitive kid knows to not bunt in this situation is to work on it in practice. I know for sure we don't work on that in practice. I would rather spend my time working on my hitting so we won't be no hit.

If you tell him to not bunt in this situation you look like the biggest loser ever and SHOULD lose the respect of your kids and other supporters. That makes you a quitter.


In regards to the other team earning the no hitter that is such a correct statement. Last season my team was no hit in an 8 inning game by one pitcher. In a possible 24 outs he only had 5 strikeouts - that means 19 outs were made by the defense. It was an awesome game to watch because my guys were stroking the ball but they made every single play they had to make. I never considered using the bunt because at anytime my guys could have got a basehit the way they were swinging. If he was dominating us without a doubt I would have bunted.

Besides if you don't get a hit bunting you get the pitcher moving around and getting tired. Now you may end up getting a hit because of it.

I am with the some of the previous posts. No hitters are earned not given.

If the no hitter is against any team I had we are doing everything to break it up. It is not bush league to be competetive. I would never teach a kid to give up, no matter how unfair the opposing team, fans or parents think it is. A team needs to play every inning of the game. If our team was up by ten the other team better hope they are in the low single digits before we let up. I've been in game where we almost lost leading by 13 , it was our fault but its also the coaches fault to give up a lead like that. It is also a coaches fault to not do everything possible to win. Most teams have pride and what kind of pride and leadership would a coach show, by teaching players to give up. If a pitcher gave us a no-no we would show the respect he earned. While winning is the goal there are days you just get beat, but get beat trying.

Good Luck

i can't imagine the other team or fans calling that bush.
a few years ago we were in jupiter. being no hit by a 16 yr old throwing 92.we got very few ground outs or fly outs. one of our guys bunted to break up the no no. that pitcher was a first rounder a few years later. i think i'm the only one that remembers it. but they remember playing against him.

Depends on score - if you're getting blown out, it's a bush league thing to do. In a tight game, "all is fair in love, war....and bunting to try an win a game"!