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I see where Windmill posted that his college freshman ran:
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3/4 mile [3:45], making them only the 4th and 5th guys to hit that mark. he was pretty excited!

That's pretty fast for baseball!

I've heard of HS s****r teams requiring their players to run a 6 minute mile or two miles in 13 minutes (shorts make you run faster). Our HS baseball coach sometimes annunciated a "minimum" mile time, but it was soon forgotten by all but the three kids who could achieve it, mostly skinny CC types.

My boys are in big trouble if such "requirements"
loom in their future.

Does your HS/College/Pro team have any such requirement?
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Junior's team has to keep running until you make the time - not sure what happens if eventually you don't - times are pretty fast if you ask me, ESPECIALLY indoors, where it is 16 laps to a mile - tough to make the time on the turns and tough to pass guys. Junior no longer has to run the 3/4 when the team runs it [Wed-Thur...1/2 on Mon-Tue, mile on Fri-Sat]...you know there will be guys that never make it. FUnny thing is a local kid in the Dodgers organization told me the have to run 1.5 in 12 minutes!! Only an 8 minute mile - Junior wasn't happy when he heard that!
I have always looked at the individual when setting times. If I have a catcher thats 6-2 200 lbs and he runs it in 7:00 Im happy with that. If my 5-8 140 lb second baseman runs it in 7:00 Im not happy with that. We run all our 40 60's for time. But we split them up in class and posistion. And we give each group a realistic specific time to meet. It just my opinion but making everyone reach the same time requirement is not realistic. Do I punish my mif for not being able to hit the ball 400'? No more than I punish my power hitting 1b for not being able to run a 6 minute mile.
Week before try outs begin at team meeting coach tells the kids that they have to be able to run a 7.3 minute mile to be considered for the team. Sunday before the start of try outs son asks me to time him running a mile. He runs the mile in 8.5 minutes and is mad because he can not see what running a mile in 7.3 has to do with being a good BB player. Day comes to run the mile, Coach adds one more piece of info about running the mile. If the player does not run the mile in 7.3 he has to run it everyday of the try out until he meets the required time or the try out is over. Son like most kids do not like to run a mile and faced with possibly running a mile everyday of try outs goes out and runs a 7.15 mile. I knew the coach was good, but did not kown he was such a great motivator.
As always, it's hard to argue with Coach May's logic - I felt the same way but didn't want to verbalize that to Junior, possibly giving him personal ammo for NOT hitting the mark. expecting your catchers to match your CF, e.g, is a bit much.
On the other hand, when Jr told me what was expected, I never dreamed he would hit the mark, [much less be one of the first guys to do so] not for lack of trying but b/c of his physical makeup, and being a bit "octane-challenged" - so until their limits are pushed, who knows what they can achieve.
I in no way was trying to suggest that we do not push our players to achieve their limits. But let me ask you this. If you put everyone of the line and tell them they have to run the 60 in 7.2 how does that push the limit of the kid that runs a 6.8 60? And how is that fair to the kid that is giving everything he has to run that 7.5? We run a strength and conditioning program from June to the start of the HS season this month. I already know what their limits are. Im not going to sit there and tell a kid that he has to run a 6 minute mile when I already know that he is busting his butt to hit 7 minutes. That is just unrealistic and serves no usefull purpose in my opinion. The fact is you want each player to give you his best. For some that best is 6 minutes and for some that best is 7 minutes. Thats all I can ask is that a kid give me his best effort. One things for sure you could never convince my players that I dont demand everything they have and push them to their limits. If they read that I didnt they would be laughing their butts off thats for sure. lol
Coach May - I hope I didn't mislead you into misinterpreting what I wrote. I agreed 100% with your imposition of different standards for different kids. Where a 6:00 mile is a breeze for some, it's a physical impossibility for others. While it can be unfair to impose that on a 6'3" 225# catcher, it can at the same time be a disservice to a 6'1" 175# CF who is capable of much more, and needs a higher standard. At all times you want a kid to push his own personal limitations, and that all kids' limits are at different levels.

I merely suggested sometimes we underestimate our kids [ I know that I do, even though I expect a lot - they still surprise me].

Hope there's no misunderstanding. Your posts are always right on the mark.
1 mile in 6:00 minutes is not about speed. A person can make it that time jogging. This time is considered as a minimum level of chape for a baseball player at that distance. It is nothing to be with position you play or body size, if you are in physical chape you make it, if not you just fade.
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My son's team was told they had to do that 6min/mile. My son is a 6'2", 225 lb Clydesdale and runs like one too! You feel the earth move when he's running. He never thought he'd make it but he finally did! But he told me he was delerious and can't remember anything for like 10 minutes after he was done. He was happy that he did finally do it - worked his butt off to make it happen. He still hates to run, but feels good that he did it.
"Clydesdale Defined"

Definition: The Clydesdale Division in running is for male runners who are over a certain weight. Unfortunately that weight is not completely standardized. In some places, the minimum weight for a Clydesdale division runner is 165 lbs. The International Triathlon Union (ITU) Technical Commission, on the other hand, states that a Clydesdale athlete must be at least 198 lbs. Most races advertise the weight requirement for Clydes divisions on the race sign up. Otherwise, it's a good idea to ask.
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That's an incredible time, 6 flat. Certainly not "jogging speed," unless one jogs a 5K in a bit over 18 minutes. Was that HS or college?

Curious what his 60 time is?
Well with the way you're talking micdsguy I may have made a mistake - I was pretty sure the coach (college) was having all the players run a mile in 6 min or less. I'll have to double check - because I know my Clydesdale doesn't run well. Of course he's been working at it, but.........
there is no way he'd ever be considered fast! Now that I'm totally dazed and confused and feeling stupid I'll have to call him and double check!
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