I've heard different opinions on pitchers throwing a football during their 2 or 3 months off, and wanted to get a couple more opinions. What are the benefits/consequences, and should it be applied to an off season throwing program?
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Nwnights07,
If you are throwing a football during this time it would be considered on.
Throwing a football with a spiral outcome produces supination drive unless you are taught how to pronate the drive and release that is very difficult to learn even when you understand this. Supinating a football just like a baseball is very injurious to your elbow and is usually performed this way with novice football throwers especially pitchers whom supinate their baseball pitches because of their natural centripetal (forearm flyout) mechanics.
The same amount of time throwing a baseball off the mound instead of a football in a spiral off flat ground would be much better for you because it would be ‘sport specific” making your motor skill proprioceptive performance much better off.
We throw an appropriately sized football in each daily workout training routine but we throw it end over end allowing us to perfect the drive and release motor skill of ulnar wrist flexion (ball breaking to the ball arm side of home plate) and radial wrist flexion (ball breaking to the glove arm side of home plate) with vertical Humeral/forearm vector by putting our fingers over the tip of the ball in 4 different grips for the pronated Curve, pronated Cutter, P.Screwball and P. tailing Fastball. This is a powerful motor skill training tool.
quote:“I've heard different opinions on pitchers throwing a football during their 2 or 3 months off”
If you are throwing a football during this time it would be considered on.
Throwing a football with a spiral outcome produces supination drive unless you are taught how to pronate the drive and release that is very difficult to learn even when you understand this. Supinating a football just like a baseball is very injurious to your elbow and is usually performed this way with novice football throwers especially pitchers whom supinate their baseball pitches because of their natural centripetal (forearm flyout) mechanics.
quote:What are the benefits/consequences
The same amount of time throwing a baseball off the mound instead of a football in a spiral off flat ground would be much better for you because it would be ‘sport specific” making your motor skill proprioceptive performance much better off.
quote:“and wanted to get a couple more opinions”
We throw an appropriately sized football in each daily workout training routine but we throw it end over end allowing us to perfect the drive and release motor skill of ulnar wrist flexion (ball breaking to the ball arm side of home plate) and radial wrist flexion (ball breaking to the glove arm side of home plate) with vertical Humeral/forearm vector by putting our fingers over the tip of the ball in 4 different grips for the pronated Curve, pronated Cutter, P.Screwball and P. tailing Fastball. This is a powerful motor skill training tool.
Yardbird, do you have video of the football drill, thanks
CBancroftjr,
Sorry for the delay, bin gone.
Here is the link to Dr.Marshall explaining each grip and each throwing element.
This portion of his interval training program comes right after the wrist weight, Iron ball, bucket twirls and finger tip iron ball pronated flips. You also see him explain and perform the bucket lid motor skill device throws to enhance the feel of his pronated curve.
The next link is one of my clients performing the football throws early his 120 day HS interval training fall program. These throws progress in distance, reps and footwork as you go.
http://video.google.com/google...116&hl=en&autoplay=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pqG1nRPo6Q
Sorry for the delay, bin gone.
Here is the link to Dr.Marshall explaining each grip and each throwing element.
This portion of his interval training program comes right after the wrist weight, Iron ball, bucket twirls and finger tip iron ball pronated flips. You also see him explain and perform the bucket lid motor skill device throws to enhance the feel of his pronated curve.
The next link is one of my clients performing the football throws early his 120 day HS interval training fall program. These throws progress in distance, reps and footwork as you go.
http://video.google.com/google...116&hl=en&autoplay=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pqG1nRPo6Q
Great stuff Yardbird.
Stu
Stu
Terry Bradshaw? very odd video IMO.
