Anyone hearing of teams pulling offers before NLI date this year ?
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Rumor of one...but nothing confirmed across a wide spectrum of 2021 teammates and friends.
I haven't, but Thursday's NJCAA decision has me worried. My 2021 is committed to a JUCO and called his future coach on Saturday. The good news is that his signing day paperwork will still be coming over this week and I am very grateful for that. Further, 2 of my son's peers committed yesterday to 2 JUCOs. One in Missouri and one in Kansas and both got some money. They were a surprise to me considering Thursday's decision. But my son has tons of uncommitted peers as of today and my left brain tells me bad news must be coming for many of them. NJCAA signing day is 11/1 and NCAA begins 11/11. Will offers be pulled between now and then? Will some offers see some funds pulled back? Will some previously promised offers turn into walk on offers? I have to think so. With the eligibility extended twice now for JUCO (and the NCAA likely to follow suit), it's naïve to think everything will simply work out fine. At some point, the bubble has to burst and I fear the next couple weeks will be our first really tough glance at it bursting. I pray I'm wrong, but something has to give at some point. Carnage was predicted after eligibility was extended the FIRST time. A second time seemed unthinkable, yet here it is already.
My guess is that 2020's will be asked to leave to make room for the 2021's, but I have no evidence.
@Good Knight posted:My guess is that 2020's will be asked to leave to make room for the 2021's, but I have no evidence.
Virtually every competitive D1 & D2 program over-recruits. There are exceptions but they are rare. Mostly it’s a question of how severe is the over-recruiting? That issue is even more important now that the NCAA is allowing expanded rosters and additional years of eligibility. Pick almost any top 25 program and look at their recruiting and roster history. They are all pretty similar. Every year they bring in a recruiting class that consists of 15 - 25 HS and JuCo kids. Less than half will be on the roster the following year. So those are the ones that are asked to leave to make room for the next recruiting class. But then the cycle repeats and that’s what most recruited HS players (and their parents) don’t understand. You have not “made it” when you sign your NLI. That’s been said on this board many times, but it has never been more true than now. In fact, there is a greater than 50% chance that you won’t be playing for that school 18 months after signing your NLI and making your big announcement on Twitter. And transferring will be more difficult than in the past as every roster is already full. So choose wisely - especially if you aren’t an elite level prospect.
Here we go.... I just got a call from a JuCo coach asking my opinion on an area kid who just got his offer pulled by Univ of Houston - a notorious over recruiting school.
Have since learned that other UofH 2021 recruits have experienced the same thing
I was told 5 were informed this week that they would not be getting their expected NLI next week by UofH.
I hope word spreads of them pulling that many offers. Especially this late in the game.
@22and25 posted:I was told 5 were informed this week that they would not be getting their expected NLI next week by UofH.
Really sh$tty of UofH to wait until late October to deliver that news. I’m sure they made the decision about this months ago. To me this is on the coaching staff and I would consider it a huge red flag. Last time I looked there were 10 undergrads from UofH in the transfer portal wanting out of there - which is another red flag.
@TerribleBPthrower posted:I hope word spreads of them pulling that many offers. Especially this late in the game.
I’m doing my part.
I have heard of a few circumstances of offers being rescinded, though perhaps not this late. This was always a concern with rosters, already over-recruited, having a set of upperclassmen back for an unexpected extra year. I am not sure there is a great answer, as much as simply a time with more competition.
I will say however that being cut, or having an offer pulled back, or transferring for whatever reason is usually a good thing long term. Of course the sudden change and adjustment is hard, but being in a program where you are wanted is by far the most important thing to a successful college career.
@GoingwiththePitch wrote; “being in a program where you are wanted is by far the most important thing to a successful college career.”
THIS x 1000 ! There is a huge difference between a program wanting you and being willing to take you. In today’s world of Covid, extra years of eligibility, and overcrowded rosters this will be the biggest determining factor in whether a player has a good experience or a bad one. The level of play doesn’t matter. If a team really wants you there is a good chance for a happy ending. If a team is willing to take you, I don’t like your chances.
@adbono posted:@GoingwiththePitch wrote; “being in a program where you are wanted is by far the most important thing to a successful college career.”
THIS x 1000 ! There is a huge difference between a program wanting you and being willing to take you. In today’s world of Covid, extra years of eligibility, and overcrowded rosters this will be the biggest determining factor in whether a player has a good experience or a bad one. The level of play doesn’t matter. If a team really wants you there is a good chance for a happy ending. If a team is willing to take you, I don’t like your chances.
I learned this the hard way, but certainly on the same page! You need a staff willing to give you a little flex and time to figure it out. At the end of the day they need to believe in you just as much as you believe in them.
@adbono How can one actually look at the transfer portal to see? That would be useful.
@NotMadeOf$$ posted:@adbono How can one actually look at the transfer portal to see? That would be useful.
The link has been posted in a couple of threads. FriarFred was the last to post it I believe.
The transfer portal is posted on D1baseball.com. You have to be a member to see it.
I heard about 2 more 2021s having their offers pulled right before signing day. This time by Texas Tech