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Ok I know this is baseball and all and if the moderators want to delete this I won't complain and understand even.

That being said I was just wondering what everyone thought about OK State's football coach and his tirade on a newspaper reporter's column about one of his players.

When I first saw it I thought "Good job - maybe a little overboard but you should stick up for your players". Then I got a little chink in my respect for him because the reporter asked him what 3/4 of the article was made up and he said he didn't have to respond to that. My thoughts are that if you throw a tantrum you better have proof for your side.

Now what gets me is that all the talking heads on TV are not really bashing him but are saying he was wrong. I don't think there can be an unbiased opinion from them. One of their own got attacked and they are taking up for her. I can relate to that but I think it goes to prove that journalists have lost perspective of their job in reporting what goes on instead of creating what goes on.

What do you all think???

Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude. Thomas Jefferson

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I actually read the article, and didn't think much of it. There is no doubt that she took a few cheap shots at Bobby Reid. I'm not sure what the 3/4 was,but oh well.

I read several other articles in both the Oklahoman and the Tulsa world and none of them had to be negative about Reid. They said that they thought Robinson was proving he could and should start, but they didn't take cheap shots like she did. She really didnt need to do that, if she felt she was going to boost herself as a writer, and at the same time Gundy should calm down and let Reid do his talking by performing on the field
infidel_08

Here is a link to the article that ticked off Gundy. I got to say if I was this guy's coach I would be steamed as well. Probably not to the extent he was but she put things she shouldn't have.

Here is a woman questioning a football player's toughness while she has never played one down in her life. While I don't think you have to have played a game to know it there are some things you do need to know and experience before you comment on them. He may be the biggest pansy on the face of the earth but it's not her job to declare it - her job is to report about the games.

http://www.newsok.com/article/3131543

Here is a link that will show his tirade newsconference and an article by Bill Curry.

Curry sort of supports and derides Gundy. It's very well written and insightful.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=curry_bill&id=3038531

Here is a link by another columnist who supports Carlson's article and direction of her article. I don't really agree with this article.

Just because everyone does it doesn't mean it's ok.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/070927&sportCat=ncf

Here is an interview with USC coach Pete Caroll. He defendes Gundy although he says he would do it differently. He also states coaches need to work with journalists.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/allthingstrojan/2007/09/pete-carroll-on.html
Kirk Herbstreet indicated there is more than meets the eye in the article. Seems to have been some other things between coach and that journalist. The editor ok's the story and should take responsibility as well. He feels it should have been dealt with privately (by the coach) as the only one who really got hurt was the player, bringing it to national spotlight. Lots of people to blame for all that went down, in his opinion. Mentioning the chicken was way out of line.



An unfortunate situation all around.
I don't get why there was this hue and cry from the media that this matter should have been handled privately. Are they protecting one of their own? Clearly, this reporter did not air her opinions in private. When you write an editorial piece you make yourself part of the story. She was wrong and so was the editor. I applaud him for backing his players and for going after a hack of a reporter who probably should find another line of work. The whole athletic department should make her persona non grata at every press conference. She has a first amendment right to say what she wants, the coaches and athletes at OSU have a first amendment right to associate with whom they chose and they shouldn't chose her. Will be a little tough to do her job if nobody will talk to her.
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Thanks for the links, Coach. My connection is too slow for the video, but I got the point.

Is there any real benefit to all the post-game press conferences? There might be regrets, should haves, could haves, tears and occasional happiness. But in my mind they are nothing but a mine-field that won't change the outcome of the game. No one cares about last night's press conference, but we all remember seeing Sweet Lou blow up more than once.

I guess these days they are a necessary evil. But, I have no use for them.
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