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Oregon State Thirds Run Scores


R1 on first.
R3 on third.
One Out.

R1 is running on pitch.
Batter hits fly ball to deep CF who catches fly ball, for second out.

R3 on third, tags and touches home plate prior
to CF throwing ball to 1b for put out R1 at 1b.

R3 scores.

Here's why!

A FORCE PLAY is a play in which a runner legally loses his right to occupy a base by reason of the batter becoming a runner.

Rule 2.00 (Force Play) Comment: Confusion regarding this play is removed by remembering that frequently the “force” situation is removed during the play. Example: Man on first, one out, ball hit sharply to first baseman who touches the bag and batter-runner is out. The force is removed at that moment and runner advancing to second must be tagged. If there had been a runner on third or second, and either of these runners scored before the tag-out at second, the run counts. Had the first baseman thrown to second and the ball then had been returned to first, the play at second was a force out, making two outs, and the return throw to first ahead of the runner would have made three outs. In that case, no run would score.

Example: Not a force out. One out. Runner on first and third. Batter flies out. Two out. Runner on third tags up and scores. Runner on first tries to retouch before throw from fielder reaches first baseman, but does not get back in time and is out. Three outs. If, in umpire’s judgment, the runner from third touched home before the ball was held at first base, the run counts.


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Of course, this is the same play a MLB screwed up on an Orioles game a month or so back. The PU didin't allow the run. The Orioles questioned it and it took three innings for them to sort it out, including working one inning in three man so the Jr ump could go to the lockerroom to check the rule. They added the run three innings later and drew a protest. To make it worse they overturned the adding of the runs protest using 9.01c as a reason. It wasn't pretty. I was watching the game in a bar with no sound, I had to explain to the group why the argument and the correct ruling.
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Is this really an appeal play when it is this deliberate that the runner left early? I always just call this as "he's out" without a verbal notification of appealing a specific runner by the fielder...

I feel that since this was not close, runner was off with pitch and never stopped (was around third when throw went back to first), I would just call the runner out.
Doesn't really matter when the runner left.....be it on the pitch or just simply leaving early trying to tag up....bottom line is he didn't tag up......if the defense wants the out they must appeal....ball was in play so they simply throw the ball first in that situation......in college and pro ball you cannot call a guy out immediately for not tagging up or missing a base.....it must be appealed
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Originally posted by johntaine21:
Is this really an appeal play when it is this deliberate that the runner left early? I always just call this as "he's out" without a verbal notification of appealing a specific runner by the fielder...

I feel that since this was not close, runner was off with pitch and never stopped (was around third when throw went back to first), I would just call the runner out.


Yes, its an appeal play. No, it doesnt have to be verbalized if the appeal is unmistakeable.

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