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If he’s not fast, he’s not really a college prospect at all unless he can really hit.

And:  if he’s not fast, he’s not a D1 prospect unless he can consistently hit 92 mph+ pitches 400 feet.

Period.  End of story.

Look man a kid on the team who is a Power 5 commit, is lightning fast.  Prob in that 6.6 range that smokeinside was talking about.  My son is not that kind of fast but he's quick, has that great first step.  When at bat not sure how important speed is as he usually ends up on 2nd, so he doesn't need to steal 2nd.  He always scores on a single from 2nd, well not always. Earlier this summer there was a kind of hard hit ball to LF and my son had that great jump off second, read it perfectly.  The coach throws up the stop sign, my son hesitates and continues through and is thrown out.   Obviously awful. I told him after the game that it was the coach's fault clearly but recommended in the future if he throws up the stop sign he probably should stop.   Son says he will most likely stop unless he's certain he can make it which sounded reasonable.  But back to the point my son is D1 but probably not power 5.  Can hit in the 90's if you are talking about degrees.

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So, I disagree that a parent can't talk to a travel coach.  In fact, most would agree that that's the only kind of coach a parent CAN talk to.  For college recruiting, you need to be talking to him.

But, you absolutely can't be "telling" the coach things.  You should entirely be ASKING him things.  ASK him what kind of colleges your son should be targeting.  Don't argue with him, if you don't like what he says, go find someone else to ask (and if he says that your son is short and slow and not D1, he may know what he's talking about).  ASK him what the team's plan is for getting your son in front of the right coaches.  ASK him what your son needs to do to become better.

Imthatguy,

I just posted in the "Not going to panic" thread about Cedric Mullins.  Keewartson played against him in college (both mid-major D1s, both drafted).  Go and read that thread from the beginning.  It is about a dad who's son wasn't getting college looks.....and now he played this week in the MLB All Star game in Denver.

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@IAmThatGuy posted:

First, absolutely, and thank you for the perfect setup!  Second - I have a great attitude.  Do you think I might be the problem?  I don't think so but now you have me thinking along those lines.   Maybe I will back off for a bit and ask my wife to address the issue with the coaches.  Thank you TPM.

this is the perfect solution, have the wife talk to the coach after you stirred up the hornets nest! What could go wrong?

First thank you all for the great advice.  I think there are a few immediate take aways for us;

1) My wife and I shouldn't talk to the coach about our son.  You all have made that clear.  Would it be wrong for us to speak with the coaches about the other outfielders shortcomings?

2) Tonight we are going to tell our son that he must follow the coaches signs.  I see how ignoring them might be leading to time on the bench.  Serious question though - if he is at bat and knows he can jack the pitcher and the coaches are calling for a sacrifice, its ok to swing in that spot right?

3) We will be getting a 3rd party evaluation of his skills.  That was great advice.  We really need to see what level of D1 he can play at.

4) Dominican - our family loves out of the box thinking and pitchingfan delivered here but its just too risky.  We were up most of last night mapping this out but it won't work. Thank you however.

I will be off line all day and will read the reply replies later.  If I am caught on line at work I will lose my job. It might be worth the risk though when my son gets his full ride. Oh, on 3rd party evaluation you all think its ok if it's my dad? He's been watching baseball his whole life and probably is impartial.

This thread reminds me of the cover page article that appeared in Sports Illustrated on April 1, 1985 about Sidd Finch, a RHP for the NY Mets who could reportedly throw 168 mph. There were other absurdities included in the article as well but at that time SI had so much credibility that some people actually believed it. If you have never read the article, Google it.

@adbono posted:

This thread reminds me of the cover page article that appeared in Sports Illustrated on April 1, 1985 about Sidd Finch, a RHP for the NY Mets who could reportedly throw 168 mph. There were other absurdities included in the article as well but at that time SI had so much credibility that some people actually believed it. If you have never read the article, Google it.

ESPN 30 for 30 shorts did a great piece on this

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/12547809

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