TBS
I sincerely doubt it!!!!
TRHit...class act!
Denis
you are so right--a QB with talent is only as good as the players around him--this year the Colts have defense so Manning's numbers are down but their record is better
Favre has been give no time to execute this year
you are so right--a QB with talent is only as good as the players around him--this year the Colts have defense so Manning's numbers are down but their record is better
Favre has been give no time to execute this year
TBS
not worth a response--didnt want you to think I was ignoring you--enuff is enuff
Goodnite Gracie
not worth a response--didnt want you to think I was ignoring you--enuff is enuff
Goodnite Gracie
A true gentleman and scholar!
TRhit, I agree. No supporting cast for Favre this year. None what so ever.
If Favre is done in Green Bay hopefully he will drive south to Chicago. It would be nice to win another Super Bowl. No help for him at all this year up in the northern woodlands.
I cannot see Favre ending his career anywhere but in Green Bay
I am sure that is true.
ISC
My wife and I are hoping to get back to Green Bay in '06 to see him in action once again
My wife and I are hoping to get back to Green Bay in '06 to see him in action once again
TBS!
"Pinpoint accuracy and rocket arm"?????????????
What in heck are you watching?????????
I saw a guy that completes about 50% and throws about 1 out of 5 like a wobbly duck.
They don't stand a chance after the 1st WC game and would not be in the playoff's or even at .500 in the AFC!
"Pinpoint accuracy and rocket arm"?????????????
What in heck are you watching?????????
I saw a guy that completes about 50% and throws about 1 out of 5 like a wobbly duck.
They don't stand a chance after the 1st WC game and would not be in the playoff's or even at .500 in the AFC!
I was watching him put the ball in the receivers hand..What the receivers proceeded to do was look like the little guys that I believe play down the street from you in the park surrounding the Dominican Priory! I will give you this ..He's no Elway..but he was doing a pretty good job zipping the ball around, sans the quail that got picked. All I'm saying is that with Grossman at the helm they have a decent shot. That defense is championship quality. Probably don't have the depth on both sides to win it all....I'm an old Raider fan anyway!
TBS
The Raider fan bit tells it all--ouch
By the way-- the phone number you included in your emails/PMs was one digit short every time--how can I phone you as you requested ?-- and you have my 800 number if it was that serious--I am sorry but I do not understand you
My mother used to tell me "If they are one digit short what else are they missing ! Be careful"
The Raider fan bit tells it all--ouch
By the way-- the phone number you included in your emails/PMs was one digit short every time--how can I phone you as you requested ?-- and you have my 800 number if it was that serious--I am sorry but I do not understand you
My mother used to tell me "If they are one digit short what else are they missing ! Be careful"
TR,
You have a PM
You have a PM
TRHIT...I did not give you a telephone number. That is a direct lie. What will your fans think? Lack of candor...OUCH
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Just so everyone can be clear I emailed Mr Rizzi (TRHIT signed my name and gave him my mailing address:
Kevin Thomas; National Director
Travel Ball Select USA
PO Box 4931
Oak Brook, Illinois
60522-4931
Mr TRHIT mistakenly took my zip code for a telephone number (one digit short) I pointed this out and asked him to inform his fan club of his error. He decided against doing the right thing.
Kevin Thomas; National Director
Travel Ball Select USA
PO Box 4931
Oak Brook, Illinois
60522-4931
Mr TRHIT mistakenly took my zip code for a telephone number (one digit short) I pointed this out and asked him to inform his fan club of his error. He decided against doing the right thing.
Would you please be good enough to take your private "spat" with TR, private, please?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hmm.....You start a thread (as I did this one) just hoping to have a little fun during a slow HSBB time. A lot of people have......White Sox, Cubs.....it goes on. We have had some mostly fun banter back and forth particulary between Cubs and Sox fans, but even though it got wild at times I don't think it has ever gotten as personal as we have seen here. I am generally against having an autocratic person shutting down certain things but the time has come.
Been, I tried....He made the comment about the phone number alluding that I was being deceptive...I contacted him privately regarding this and he refused to at least admit he made a mistake. I think in this instance I had a right to defend the allegation.
Mike McCarthy named new head coach today. Any thoughts?
He was Farves qb coach when ray Rhodes was coach. He worked with farve and uses the West Coast offense. Farve is more likely to stay. As a Packer fan, it is OK with me if Farve goes. Time to move on.
Actually, keeping #4 in the fold may be the only thing this guy is good for. He was his QB coach a few years ago. Of course 4 had his worst season that year...
Ray Rhodes might have been the worst Packer coach in the teams history. Favre should take alot of the blame this year, but not all of it.
I vote for Forrest Gregg as worst ever. Team stunk and they played dirty.
Forest Gregg could kick Butkus and Ditkas's butt's at the same time.
Perhaps, but he couldn't outcoach Ditka.
Think about that...
Think about that...
Holden, Perhaps nothing.
Soxnole, You must really be drinking too much Tallahasee tequila if you think that Forest Gregg would even show up to battle Mr. Butkus, then or now. You're talking about comparing the most feared man in the NFL during his era to a slowfooted OL who put fear in nobody. What are you talking about?
Soxnole, You must really be drinking too much Tallahasee tequila if you think that Forest Gregg would even show up to battle Mr. Butkus, then or now. You're talking about comparing the most feared man in the NFL during his era to a slowfooted OL who put fear in nobody. What are you talking about?
I think they hired McCarthy so that Farve doesn't leave--they go back a number of years together
sox...LOL...I happen to know Dick Butkus. He's Lithuanian.
Forrest Gregg wouldn't know what hit him.
Forrest Gregg wouldn't know what hit him.
itsrosy,
i was simply trying to avoid engaging soxnole over an obviously silly statement.
i was simply trying to avoid engaging soxnole over an obviously silly statement.
Holden,
I know. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was making a negative comment about your post. I was in a semi state-of-shock after reading Soxnole's remarks.
I know. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was making a negative comment about your post. I was in a semi state-of-shock after reading Soxnole's remarks.
For you brain washed, delusionary bear fans and a mis-guided Beenthere as well....
Sam Huff and Ray Nitchke were infinetely more imposing and intimidating than the excellent but 4th best (of his time) Butkus.
I'm including Chuck Bednarik as 1 of the top 3.
Jim Brown has stated many times that he feared Huff the most.
Sam Huff and Ray Nitchke were infinetely more imposing and intimidating than the excellent but 4th best (of his time) Butkus.
I'm including Chuck Bednarik as 1 of the top 3.
Jim Brown has stated many times that he feared Huff the most.
Soxnole.....you head is getting foggy....or is it, as Rosy says "Tallahasee Tequila?" Of course he feared Huff more than Butkus because Brown retired after Butkus' rookie season. He may have never been on the field with Butkus.
Seems like you have some baseball knowledge but you hatred for the Bears makes you write goofy things about football.
Seems like you have some baseball knowledge but you hatred for the Bears makes you write goofy things about football.
Thanks Fastball,
I'm looking out my window and it is snowing quite hard. I've got nothing much to do so I just did a little research to try and prove or disprove Soxnole's assertions.
Well, once again he seems to be way over the top. According to the Sporting News' top 100 NFL players of all time, Butkus is #9, sam Huff #76 Ray Nitsche #18 and Chuck Bednarak not ranked, but he is ranked as the #42 best college player of all time. Now, to continue along what Fastball wrote, Butkus played in the NFL from '65-73. Sam Huff played with the NY Giants from 60-63 where he had his best years and then from '64-69 with the Redskins. Bednarack played from '48 until '56. He is considered the best center of all time.
The only point to make here is that you're trying to compare players of different times with the exception of some years where Butkus overlapped with Nitsche. I'm going to be 59 years old and remember quite well watching Butkus and Nitsche play, and Dick Butkus was the toughest, meanest and all around best defensive player that may have ever strapped on a helmet.
One more point, the only defensive player ranked above Butkus was Lawrence Taylor, who is ranked as the 4th best NFL player in history. No doubt some East Coast bias here. IMO, if you're talking football or out in the street brawling, Butkus had no equal.
Now, let's return to discussing Baseball!
I'm looking out my window and it is snowing quite hard. I've got nothing much to do so I just did a little research to try and prove or disprove Soxnole's assertions.
Well, once again he seems to be way over the top. According to the Sporting News' top 100 NFL players of all time, Butkus is #9, sam Huff #76 Ray Nitsche #18 and Chuck Bednarak not ranked, but he is ranked as the #42 best college player of all time. Now, to continue along what Fastball wrote, Butkus played in the NFL from '65-73. Sam Huff played with the NY Giants from 60-63 where he had his best years and then from '64-69 with the Redskins. Bednarack played from '48 until '56. He is considered the best center of all time.
The only point to make here is that you're trying to compare players of different times with the exception of some years where Butkus overlapped with Nitsche. I'm going to be 59 years old and remember quite well watching Butkus and Nitsche play, and Dick Butkus was the toughest, meanest and all around best defensive player that may have ever strapped on a helmet.
One more point, the only defensive player ranked above Butkus was Lawrence Taylor, who is ranked as the 4th best NFL player in history. No doubt some East Coast bias here. IMO, if you're talking football or out in the street brawling, Butkus had no equal.
Now, let's return to discussing Baseball!
Its...Agree with your assessment of Butkus.
I go back to his days at CVS and Illinois, where, if I'm not mistaken, he played center and linebacker in some games!
Could be the nicest man you would ever meet, but when he strapped on the helmet and put the pads on....WOW!
I go back to his days at CVS and Illinois, where, if I'm not mistaken, he played center and linebacker in some games!
Could be the nicest man you would ever meet, but when he strapped on the helmet and put the pads on....WOW!
Sooooo.....da bears played exactly 1 more game than the Pack!
Same as the Colts and Patriots.....not a very meaningful fact.
Actually the Pats played 2...
Bears showed true stripes...overated defense that dominated the worst division in FB.
Bad offense and ineffective QB's...(How 'bout 1-15 for 6 yards at one point....nice)
At least you have that nice high draft choice for next year and all that cap space...oh wait that's the Packers
Bears showed true stripes...overated defense that dominated the worst division in FB.
Bad offense and ineffective QB's...(How 'bout 1-15 for 6 yards at one point....nice)
At least you have that nice high draft choice for next year and all that cap space...oh wait that's the Packers
This Bear team will go nowhere with Grossman.
Can't believe Thomas Jones got them this far and then they turn over it over to Grossman like he's capable or something.
In the game that he got all the accolades, he actually should have accounted for 3 points to Ortons 6! He's too little and way too inexperienced.
Can't believe Thomas Jones got them this far and then they turn over it over to Grossman like he's capable or something.
In the game that he got all the accolades, he actually should have accounted for 3 points to Ortons 6! He's too little and way too inexperienced.
The great Ron Turner panicked big-time. On the first drive! When behind early instead of sticking with what worked all year they start zinging the ball downfield???
Did they sign a burner wideout during bye-week or suddenly think Muhammad would catch balls downfield? They were always close enough to establish the run but must have lost all confidence in the defense.
Did they sign a burner wideout during bye-week or suddenly think Muhammad would catch balls downfield? They were always close enough to establish the run but must have lost all confidence in the defense.