Is it right or wrong for a parent to be coaching (assistant) at the high school level with kids in the program? Are there many high schols out there that allow this?
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Totally depends on the person.
Coach DelMonico at Tennessee handles his situation (SS son)just fine, thank you.
Coach Martin @ Florida State did the same with his son. (Team was 2nd at the college WS!)
The big problem's are 1)finding the right person and 2) the jealousy and interference of other parents. In the end I'm sure it's just easier to say "No".
Coach DelMonico at Tennessee handles his situation (SS son)just fine, thank you.
Coach Martin @ Florida State did the same with his son. (Team was 2nd at the college WS!)
The big problem's are 1)finding the right person and 2) the jealousy and interference of other parents. In the end I'm sure it's just easier to say "No".
Napoleon at New Trier has coached his kids. I think the guy at Niles West has as well. They are not parent coaches though, they are coaches who have children, which makes them parents.
Which hs are you talking about johnny, is it in the fox valley conference?
Dave power at Fenwick did a pretty good job with his daughter on the floor, state champs. Hey deuce forgot to mention one of my friends is the new favorite son from Friar land, you know MD's new coach, I will bring you up next time I see him.
Regarding Niles West--Gustafson's kids will go to Maine South. Looks like son will whoop up on dad for awhile.
The questions should have been phrased like this. If a parent who was not on the coaching staff prior to this year and now has a kid in the program, should that parent now be an assistant coach? Is it a conflict of interest?
Absolute conflict of interest to be coaching at the same level as his kid as he and his kid are new arrivals to the program.
When I was coaching basketball as my kids came up through the program, I always coached a level that the kids weren't playing at so I wouldn't be coaching my own kids. If the coach is truly interested in coaching for the right reasons, that won't matter to him.
When I was coaching basketball as my kids came up through the program, I always coached a level that the kids weren't playing at so I wouldn't be coaching my own kids. If the coach is truly interested in coaching for the right reasons, that won't matter to him.
CPLZ, we seldom disagree but in this circumstance, with a person’ job/income on the line, I think that it is absolutely appropriate that a coach be allowed to coach the level he/she is hired into whether he/she has a child at that level or not. When a coach has a child that has some athletic abilities/gifts, that parent/coach might seek opportunities that fit both the child and the coach. This might be especially true if their present situation ceases to have “hold” over them. The hiring school district, I’m sure, is well aware of situation. If a district hired a person as a “head coach,” then they are hiring on those merits for the long term. If they hire as an “assistant coach” then the head coach is involved in the process and will put that coach at a level that is best for the program regardless of whether they have a child in the program or not.
Would I love to coach my child? You bet! Would I ever seek opportunities to do so? YOU NEVER KNOW!
Would I love to coach my child? You bet! Would I ever seek opportunities to do so? YOU NEVER KNOW!
Coach,
Just as their are right reasons and wrong reasons for anything, experience shows us everyday that good people make choices for the wrong reasons. We can't exclude head coaches or administrators from that.
My experience with this specific topic, of a coach arriving simultainiously as the child/athlete, was a negative one. Although I do agree it can work(theoretically), I have witnessed it not work (actual). The problem is, that when it doesn't work, it's very bad.
You mentioned a persons job/income on the line and I would counter with what about the players and their families? Assistant coaches are not usually reliant upon that income as a staple of their finances. Hiring an assistant simultainiously as his child/player comes to the program raises too many questions and puts the coach in a reproachable position. Specifically, I have seen it erode respect for the head coach from the players.
With an assistant coach that is already in place and a child coming up through the system, I have no problem because it is clear that the individual is there to coach, not just help his kid.
Personally, although I would have loved to coach my kids, in my circumstance, I felt my kids would gain more being coached by someone else. Simply the dynamic of the relationship I have with my kids, that they'd be more openminded towards an unrelated expert and more likely to dismiss things I might say.
Just as their are right reasons and wrong reasons for anything, experience shows us everyday that good people make choices for the wrong reasons. We can't exclude head coaches or administrators from that.
My experience with this specific topic, of a coach arriving simultainiously as the child/athlete, was a negative one. Although I do agree it can work(theoretically), I have witnessed it not work (actual). The problem is, that when it doesn't work, it's very bad.
You mentioned a persons job/income on the line and I would counter with what about the players and their families? Assistant coaches are not usually reliant upon that income as a staple of their finances. Hiring an assistant simultainiously as his child/player comes to the program raises too many questions and puts the coach in a reproachable position. Specifically, I have seen it erode respect for the head coach from the players.
With an assistant coach that is already in place and a child coming up through the system, I have no problem because it is clear that the individual is there to coach, not just help his kid.
Personally, although I would have loved to coach my kids, in my circumstance, I felt my kids would gain more being coached by someone else. Simply the dynamic of the relationship I have with my kids, that they'd be more openminded towards an unrelated expert and more likely to dismiss things I might say.
CPLZ, I respect your opinion and so, I'll have to agree to disagree.
Please forgive me for not explaining my position further. To do so would make me seem arrogant.
Please forgive me for not explaining my position further. To do so would make me seem arrogant.
CoachB....you can't do that. You aren't allowed to respectfully disagree adn then walk away from it. You need to fan the flames until we have a full-scale war of words over it.
Come on...go ahead and be arrogant. You haven't shown that side yet and it might be fun.
Come on...go ahead and be arrogant. You haven't shown that side yet and it might be fun.
quote:Originally posted by FastballDad:
CoachB....you can't do that. You aren't allowed to respectfully disagree adn then walk away from it. You need to fan the flames until we have a full-scale war of words over it.
Come on...go ahead and be arrogant. You haven't shown that side yet and it might be fun.
FastballDad, though my eyeballs often appear brown, even I'm not full of enough BS to make anyone believe that I know anything!
Im for parents coaching...at our school it could only be an improvement!
Forget if he is a parent or not !@!!
Does he know the game and know how to coach the kids?
That is all you need to worry about---if you son hads the talent to start he will start
Does he know the game and know how to coach the kids?
That is all you need to worry about---if you son hads the talent to start he will start
I told my current employers during the interview process that I would not accept the job unless they would support me in never allowing a parent to coach in our program. While I have seen it work a couple of times, it is my belief that the negatives far outweigh the positives when parents coach their kids. Whether or not there is favoritism by a parent-coach, it is detrimental to a program's reputation if others believe that favoritism is occurring. Furthermore, the parent-coach is often a negative presence to his child (even if he is helpful to the other players). I've been told by kids who have had their dads in the dugout at the high school level that the extra pressure was at times unbearable and the negative aspects of practice and games were often taken home with them. I love the fact that we have supportive parents, but they can find ways to support our program in ways other than coaching. If they really want to coach than I would be happy to recommend them to another coach in our area.
Where would that be?
quote:it is detrimental to a program's reputation if others believe that favoritism is occurring
LOL this is a way of life at our political based HS program..you would not believe the talent they let go on many levels..I know baseball to well to know SOMETHING else is involed..other than talent
Get to work JARTHUR 
I know that there are parent-coaches that can balance things well and I respect the opinions that differ from mine, but as long as I am in my position, we will not have a parent coach his kids.
I know that there are parent-coaches that can balance things well and I respect the opinions that differ from mine, but as long as I am in my position, we will not have a parent coach his kids.
being serious now,,there is no place for a parent on the HS baseball field,,although some can definately do a better job than the coach.
heres the problem..you are the first base coach and bobby gets a single,,you send him to second base and he gets thrown out..DONT YOU KNOW you just jepordized bobbys chance to get a college scholarship cause you got him thrown out at second?
Let the games begin..LOL..
heres the problem..you are the first base coach and bobby gets a single,,you send him to second base and he gets thrown out..DONT YOU KNOW you just jepordized bobbys chance to get a college scholarship cause you got him thrown out at second?
Let the games begin..LOL..