Passion, commitment or whatever you want to call is there. My son went to a practice today that lasted 3 hours – he and his teammates worked there butts of in heat and humidity that you wouldn’t put your dog in.
They are going to the wood bat tourney in East Cobb tomorrow and we have to leave about 6:15AM to get there. Just got back from SC where he played 5 games in 2 days.
Passion, commitment is there. Does he need a break, probably. Will he get one – NO – his choice not mine.
I cant swear where baseball will take my son – his last game maybe his last game in HS, or he could go JUCO, NAIA, D3, D2, or D1 or a Pro route. What I can tell you the passion is there.
One thing I know for certain is that Fungo fishing all day is unfair!!!!!!
Both sides make great points but to a degree they are thinking their way is the only way.
Yes kids need to fulfill commitments when they make them and parents need to make sure the kids follow through.
Yes kids need to be able to do other things and have vacations. Go hangout with buddies, go to his girlfriends and whatever else.
The problem is most people don't take the time to plan and communicate with everyone involved. Those are things you can control and if you take care of those things then the process is much smoother. Something you cannot control is if the coach is a freak and hard to work with. Those guys take the fun out of it.
Kids have the ability to multi - task and do various things but sometimes they don't know how to plan them out so all the pieces fit. To me this is where the parents helps out - sit down with their son and they figure out what is going on, when things are going on and develop a plan to talk to all the coaches involved so there is no problems.
At the school I teach at football and baseball have basically the same rules - you miss for family, church and school things it's no problem. If you miss anything for basketball they hold it against you no matter what it is. Amazingly kids are quitting basketball left and right. We still don't have enough kids playing football but there is not a kid in the whole school that is a baseball player that is not playing.
Plan and communicate and it works itself out.
Yes kids need to fulfill commitments when they make them and parents need to make sure the kids follow through.
Yes kids need to be able to do other things and have vacations. Go hangout with buddies, go to his girlfriends and whatever else.
The problem is most people don't take the time to plan and communicate with everyone involved. Those are things you can control and if you take care of those things then the process is much smoother. Something you cannot control is if the coach is a freak and hard to work with. Those guys take the fun out of it.
Kids have the ability to multi - task and do various things but sometimes they don't know how to plan them out so all the pieces fit. To me this is where the parents helps out - sit down with their son and they figure out what is going on, when things are going on and develop a plan to talk to all the coaches involved so there is no problems.
At the school I teach at football and baseball have basically the same rules - you miss for family, church and school things it's no problem. If you miss anything for basketball they hold it against you no matter what it is. Amazingly kids are quitting basketball left and right. We still don't have enough kids playing football but there is not a kid in the whole school that is a baseball player that is not playing.
Plan and communicate and it works itself out.
quote:Plan and communicate and it works itself out.
You are a wise man my friend!
It's passion AND commitment that lead to success.
Commitment with no passion? Absolutely possible... I've definitely worked jobs that I had no passion for, but I was committed.
Passion with no commitment - absolutely not. I would definitely not want to be married to a passionate man who lacked commitment, for example. Not a good combination.
As someone pointed out, my issue is with the adults involved in these situations, not the kids. The parents who would rather lie to get their kid on the team and the coaches who are too afraid to say "sorry - we had an understanding and you aren't fulfilling your end of the bargain". Simple as that.
Just to be crystal clear - no, this is not an "elite" team, but if you follow the reasoning of some posters, there wouldn't even be such a concept as an elite team because that would require too much dedication. In any case, this is a team that will play 6 tournaments - 18 days out of a long summer. (And that's only if you make it through Friday and Saturday in most cases.) That leaves lots and lots of days to do all the other things that make summer fun - and you might even have an hour or two to push the lawn mower around the yard. Kids need to have lots of different kinds of experiences in life, and one of those experiences just might be having to say no to something you'd rather do because there's something else you already committed to. That's part of life, too.
I agree that generalizations are not fair to either side. And of course there are many, many kids who are passionate and committed and hard working and driven - I've even lived with one or two in my own house! My hat is off to those who are living their dreams and having fun in the process - they'll be the real winners in life.
Commitment with no passion? Absolutely possible... I've definitely worked jobs that I had no passion for, but I was committed.
Passion with no commitment - absolutely not. I would definitely not want to be married to a passionate man who lacked commitment, for example. Not a good combination.
As someone pointed out, my issue is with the adults involved in these situations, not the kids. The parents who would rather lie to get their kid on the team and the coaches who are too afraid to say "sorry - we had an understanding and you aren't fulfilling your end of the bargain". Simple as that.
Just to be crystal clear - no, this is not an "elite" team, but if you follow the reasoning of some posters, there wouldn't even be such a concept as an elite team because that would require too much dedication. In any case, this is a team that will play 6 tournaments - 18 days out of a long summer. (And that's only if you make it through Friday and Saturday in most cases.) That leaves lots and lots of days to do all the other things that make summer fun - and you might even have an hour or two to push the lawn mower around the yard. Kids need to have lots of different kinds of experiences in life, and one of those experiences just might be having to say no to something you'd rather do because there's something else you already committed to. That's part of life, too.
I agree that generalizations are not fair to either side. And of course there are many, many kids who are passionate and committed and hard working and driven - I've even lived with one or two in my own house! My hat is off to those who are living their dreams and having fun in the process - they'll be the real winners in life.