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TPM brought this up on another thread and I thought it may be important to highlight and seek additional information. How can we help our kids pay for college. My son wants to go to GT, Georgia or Clemson. My daughter wants to go to Emory. If we paid for everything (tuition, room, meals,books)it would cost 2bl or 3pl the cost of my house.

Willj responded with this advice - anyone care to contibute:

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will,
Maybe you could post some info some time regarding student loans, the good, the bad, the ugly. I notice that this is not a topic that is discussed very much here.

This is something that everyone must have on their minds before recruiting begins.

Just a thought!


That's a big subject. I will be glad to provide answers to whatever questions might be posted. I work with lenders, not schools, just so you know. Perhaps you've heard of Sallie Mae or some other student loan companies. Sallie Mae is a client of mine, as are a number of other similar (but smaller) companies across the country.

I can and do answer questions about how to go about student loans. For those of you here who have kids that will need those college degrees (i.e. most of us), I will give you the one piece of information you really need....

Students do not have to qualify (credit check) for government guaranteed student loans, so any kid that goes to a real school can get loans. A student's ability to repay his student loan is based almost solely on what job he/she gets when school is over. The default rate on Stafford loans is pretty high, around 9%, and it ruins your credit as bad as a bankruptcy. The key here is that over 90% of borrowers who default do so in the first year of repayment after graduation. In fact, nearly all of these students who default fail to make a single payment on their loan(s).

There are two reasons for that...(1) he couldn't find a job after graduation, or (2) he found a job but it doesn't pay very much (I'm going to use "he", realizing that I and others also have daughters). So the biggest key for these students is planning the school/career choices before they enter college (or within the first year or two of college). And you are the only one that can give the appropriate counseling to your child, to make sure he is realistic. It's hard but you really need to talk to your child while he's doing his college planning and perhaps in the first year or two of college so he understands what the job market is like for his chosen field, and what his financial obligations will be when he graduates. It doesn't make much sense to go to a really expensive school and borrower $100,000+ then major in something that will pay you $20k per year.

The best thing you can do is provide some direction for your child based on his abilities/desire so that the borrowing matches up with the expected earnings power that he will have after school. If you have a son or daughter who has fantastic potential and desire to succeed, and he/she wants to go to Vanderbilt, for example, that's probably ok since he/she will come out with great earning power. I hate to say it this way, but not all our kids are geniuses. If you have a good, but not great student, are you really doing him a favor sending him to a really expensive school? UK, my alma mater, is pretty cheap and still a decent school. No shame in not going to Vandy or Stanford, etc.

Jon
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the biggest key for these students is planning the school/career choices before they enter college (or within the first year or two of college


Great point. In November, we took our '08 son to Dallas for an extensive aptitude test at the Johnson O'Connor Research Foundation. (Their web address is www.jocrf.org and they have offices in Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Houston, L.A., New York, San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington D.C.) The test yielded unbelievably beneficial results, recommending several majors for son to choose from ranging from highly-specialized nursing to marketing and entrepreneurial business. Equally helpful were listings of subjects son should NOT major in and specific reasons why. By the way, according to the foundation, aptitudes are pretty much set by the age of 14 and do not change.

The test cost $600, but is cheap if you consider the money your child may waste at college taking unnecessary courses. I took it myself when I was a sophomore in college and the results totally redirected me -- and were right on the money, I might add.

Like Catcher09 said, it's beneficial to know your strengths and projected income as you evaluate colleges to attend as well as their anticipated costs. Also, if more specific or unusual majors such as nursing or wildlife biology are recommended, you can narrow your search to colleges that offer those majors.
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My son wanted to go to Loyola Marymount in California. I said no.

Granted, this was early on, but I knew how much it cost. Based on that alone, I said no. I started steering him toward schools that we could actually pay for. His initial interest was teaching and criminal justice. Started looking at junior colleges and local schools and comparing the costs, because a degree in either interest was popular and readily available at most schools.

You are not likely to get any federal financial aid that would matter. Your kid may get academic money, that is as different as the schools. Old Vaman is right, complete the FAFSA and they will tell you what your Expected Family Contribution will be. Realistically it will be substantial $$. Student loans are easy to get, and hard to pay back. So are those plus loans for parents. I never felt like stressing ourselves or putting my family in financial jeopardy just to pay for Jr.'s college. I looked for the best solution for all. He is still in college, due to graduate in Dec. and we are not in debt because of it. We found a happy medium in a respectable university and a price we could afford.

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