PED's and just plain life issues

See page 15 of the MLB JDA for the description of Therapeutic Use Exemptions, which is the correct way to handle these sorts of situations.  I'm not sure how this would be handled in independent ball.

I'm surprised that we don't hear of players who are using this Exemption 3Finger. But then again, it is kind of a private thing. But it appears that my player in this scenario would be safe as long as he has a licensed MD that states by tests that he needs T.

 

I appreciate you posting this. I was curious about this in light of all the stuff going on in MLB and why none of the players weren't possibly claiming this as a reason they tested positive.

I will preface this by saying I'm a pharmacist. Depending on the testing parameters,  replacing low T to physiologic levels probably would not come back as a "positive" steroid test. 

Well, the number of TUEs for ADHD related problems among baseball players is said to be ridiculously high.  But I wouldn't expect to see individual names.

 

The way TUEs work require that the player has already obtained the TUE before testing positive.  Getting a doctor's note after the fact is specifically excluded as a defense.

Is the above a real life scenerio because doctors dont put young players on medications such as lipitor and testostorone blood pressure medicine unless the young patient is really ill or in danger of drooping dead (seriously).
Minor league players go through education and given a website to check for legal substances and those that are not.
Exceptions have to be backed up by testing and doctor recommendations and exception forms clearly spelled out before a player can take a substance nof allowed.
The excuse I didnt know doesnt work.

And just because a doctor says its ok doesnt mean its ok.  Remember Manny Ramirez?
All minor leaguers are tested and given physicals when they come to spring training.  In the above scenerio he may not pass his physicals.

There are laws in place (hipa) to protect individuals so you will never hear about players who are taking medications.

TPM, that's not a real scenario. However, I do know a young man in his 20's that is taking a T shot every 2 weeks. I would imagine if a young man had high cholesterol then being put on Lipitor would not be out of reach as well. But in the end, physicals are a good thing to have often to find out where there may be actual health problems of any kind. But it sounds like there is something in place for ball players who may need medication from MLB and that is good to know.

I am not really sure of the intent of this post, but usually all medical issues are handled through the team doctor when the player is in season.   And it is the responsibility of the player to inform the team of any issues that arise during off season, so in other words no one gets caught with their pants down (literally).  All of these issues are part of an educational program provided to each player.

Many a times son has stood in the drugstore on the phone with MLB to find out what he can take or can't, during off season as milb are subjected to testing in the off season as well.  Lipitor is not a performance enhancing drug as far as I am aware of.

 

FWIW, it is more likely that high cholesterol would be treated through diet. Statins are very powerful drugs and unless in a medical crises, doctors don't give young men or women that type of medicine without first determining if serious enough to warrant it.

As far as the other thing, I might doubt that a young 20 year old ATHLETE would need testosterone, most have more then they need to begin with. 

 

JMO

My first reaction was the same. There's almost NO WAY a young athlete needs testosterone (OR has these other symptoms). What exactly is the point you are trying to make, YoungGun? Why not just come out with it?

Folks! Calm down! There is no hidden agenda here! I promise. It was just a hypothetical situation I promise! lol

 

The Lipitor is a non-factor in this scenario. I just threw it in as something that COULD happen. lol.

 

And I know a very healthy young man in his 20's that does in fact need T. So a healthy appearance doesn't always mean a healthy inside. (Remember the cute blonde stepping out of the car onto the red carpet and trips? High Cholestorol!) It happens.

 

I would also imagine that diet could be issued as a preventive measure. But my entire post was just in light of this PED scandal and what would happen if a young player actually had an excuse and/or prescription to take something.

 

That's all! I promise! lol

 

It's all good, YG ... I just wanted to figure out what the point was! Thanks.

we must remember that anabolic steroids, testosterone therapy and hgh are NOT illegal drugs. It is just illegal to posses and use them without a doctors prescription. We are not talking about heroin or cocaine. If you fall and puncture a lung after you are stabilized you are more then likely given an anabolic steroid to start and help speed the lung recovery. For certain types of muscle treatment and /or skeletal issues these are prescribed. It is the use of these  to gain an unfair advantage as why they were banned specifically in 2004 by MLB. These actually work to help sick and injured people. But like all things they can be abused.

Absolutely, Moses. All of these drugs are beneficial when used properly -- even by athletes. I do believe, however, that EVERY professional athlete should be informed enough about the rules that they would never accidentally ingest something illegal.

 

This ain't hard. Talk to the team doc ... get the prescription if it's necessary ... and get well.

 

But AVOID the team doc or trainer ... and you're just asking for it. Right??