Saw the story on tv about the tragedy with the Hooton boy at Plano West.
Anyone doing anything about steroids and other substance abuse down there?
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WHAT!!!
what?
This story is not current, though I knew nothing of it before BT's post. I found this article after a quick search.
Steroid story
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.-- Abraham Lincoln
Steroid story
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.-- Abraham Lincoln
sad to say the least...his entire future was ahead of him...hopefully his dad's message will take root in some kids life...and keep others from using...
His dad was on "The Ticket" this morning with Norm. Very sad story, glad to see it getting some press.
http://www.taylorhooton.org/
And Beenthere, I don't think it's just a Plano Texas problem.
http://www.taylorhooton.org/
And Beenthere, I don't think it's just a Plano Texas problem.
I am amazed at the low number of participating districts in mandatory drug testing. For 3 years now, Princeton has required every athlete participating in sports pass an initial drug test and then random testing is done throughout the year. It has shown to work and I certainly support it.
The problem with your "standard" drug test is that it doesn't include steroids. A sepearate test must be done on this!
Then let's start testing for both!
I've seen (and heard about) way too many young men using this stuff! Many of the signs are pretty obvious if you take the time to look.
Many school districts are "now play to pay", sign me up to pay in order to keep are young people safe and healthy!
I've seen (and heard about) way too many young men using this stuff! Many of the signs are pretty obvious if you take the time to look.
Many school districts are "now play to pay", sign me up to pay in order to keep are young people safe and healthy!
Rockwall is another district which tests its athletes on a regular basis and upholds a no tolerance policy with alcohol. My kid loves it! He doesn't have to deal with the pressure of participating because everybody knows he's an athlete.
I think we should test the band and the chess club also. I wonder if the teachers have drug test. Many of us do.
Our school test every student that participates in any uil event. From the debate team all the way to the cheerleaders. I think it is great.
Sounds like the Shallowater school administrators have a plan and are committed to it.
Preventative maintenance can save lives!
Preventative maintenance can save lives!
The problem we are seeing in the PISD is that there isn't enough money here to do it, however there is a beautiful indoor facility that holds a 50 yd football field!
Money isn't an issue when it comes to the kids, when people say there isn't enough money they are putting a price on the kids lives! Money is not the issue!
Money isn't an issue when it comes to the kids, when people say there isn't enough money they are putting a price on the kids lives! Money is not the issue!
Tonight CBS 48 Hours will run a special on the steroid problems around the country and show people just how easy it is to access these drugs. It starts at 9pm central time! We have a link to the trailer on our website, www.taylorhooton.org
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Originally posted by RockinTheWall:
Rockwall is another district which tests its athletes on a regular basis and upholds a no tolerance policy with alcohol. My kid loves it! He doesn't have to deal with the pressure of participating because everybody knows he's an athlete.
I wouldn't say there is no tolerance. It is only on the second offense that the coaches find out of the kids failed drug tests. Baseball is the only Rockwall sport that enforces the zero tolerance rule, basketball and football does not. It is the baseball coaches who enforce and run a tight ship, not RISD and certainly not Elam.
This topic has been forcefully debated on these boards in the past, but I feel compelled to comment.
You are all so quick to relinquish your personal privacy rights to government & civic authorities. You are all so quick to delegate the shepherding, raising, and monitoring of your children's activities to school districts and the teachers employed by the district. Where is your sense of personal responsibility?
My wife & I accept the responsibility for leading our children away from drugs, alcohol abuse, gambling addictions (see the current poker craze on ESPN), tobacco, and all of the other vices in life. We will not achieve 100% success.
I hope I never see an institutional policy implemented in the Lewisville school districts that require drug testing on any students or teachers without just cause. Simply wanting to participate or coach on the baseball team, in the band, or on the physics robot team does not offer just cause for testing.
You are all so quick to relinquish your personal privacy rights to government & civic authorities. You are all so quick to delegate the shepherding, raising, and monitoring of your children's activities to school districts and the teachers employed by the district. Where is your sense of personal responsibility?
My wife & I accept the responsibility for leading our children away from drugs, alcohol abuse, gambling addictions (see the current poker craze on ESPN), tobacco, and all of the other vices in life. We will not achieve 100% success.
I hope I never see an institutional policy implemented in the Lewisville school districts that require drug testing on any students or teachers without just cause. Simply wanting to participate or coach on the baseball team, in the band, or on the physics robot team does not offer just cause for testing.
Dbg_fan,
I agree with civil liberties but without drug testing, the sport would be lost to steroids and other drugs. Test or the sport(s) go to the cheaters - not winners.
I agree with civil liberties but without drug testing, the sport would be lost to steroids and other drugs. Test or the sport(s) go to the cheaters - not winners.
DGB Fan I completely understand your opinion! I agree parents do have a big responsibilty but your children are going to look up to their coaches and in some aspects the coachs and peers are gonig to have a far more influence on your kids than you will!
Secondly if you plan on sending your child to college and they are going to participate in athletics be prepared for random testing with out cause. You cannot play unless you sign the agreement to be tested. If your clean then you have nothing to worry about when dicussing personal privacy. If your test results are positive for any illegal drugs and your worried about people finding out, then you know your guilty inside. We all make choices, stand up for your decisions!
Secondly if you plan on sending your child to college and they are going to participate in athletics be prepared for random testing with out cause. You cannot play unless you sign the agreement to be tested. If your clean then you have nothing to worry about when dicussing personal privacy. If your test results are positive for any illegal drugs and your worried about people finding out, then you know your guilty inside. We all make choices, stand up for your decisions!
quote:Interestingly, that is exactly one of the questions I asked my son's college coach. i.e. Do you submit your players to drug tests? He was caught off guard, as no one had ever asked him that question before. Coach told me that the school does not administer any drug tests on its athletes.
Secondly if you plan on sending your child to college and they are going to participate in athletics be prepared for random testing with out cause.
I am aware that the NCAA may have drug test policies, though I know none of the details. But I'm having a difficult time recalling a single NCAA athlete that has been suspended or otherwise disciplined for steroid use. I am confident in my opinion (I have no proof, just 2nd/3rd hand stories) that there is steroid use by NCAA athletes, but not convinced that the NCAA has a plan or the fortitude to enforce a plan that disciplines steroid users.
My D1 student athlete was tested twice this year. The testing by the NCAA is increasing right now.
Wow, that is a lot for one year. In your opinion do you feel that this would keep your student from using drugs? B/c they never know when they are giong to get tested?
For me i was never tested but the threat was always there, we always had guys tested!
For me i was never tested but the threat was always there, we always had guys tested!
Yes. If they KNOW they are going to get tested then they KNOW they will get busted for cheating. In college particularly, sports is a business and everyone is all state or all world. Everyone is looking for a slight edge.
Well, i wouldn't say that all the athletes are all state or all american. But yes they are certianly looking for that edge, and its no longer a "level" playing field. its your chemicals vs. my chemicals!
Its simply not fair anymore! Everyone wants quick results and are not willing to put in the extra time and effort it takes!
Its simply not fair anymore! Everyone wants quick results and are not willing to put in the extra time and effort it takes!
FYI - We just received the welcome back - when to report letter. It said there was a drug test for everyone when they get there. Good for them (Big 12 school).
I'd like to talk about the food supplement drinks. Slimfast and such. What do we know about them as a snack to help a kid bulk up. My knee-jerk reaction is negative
Air Force has suspended football players for steroids. I don't know of other cases off hand. We drug test varsity athletes at Mesquite High. I'm not sure if it is district wide. As of right now all UIL participants don't have to but we may be moving in that direciton.