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Player runs into his (own) Coach while round 3rd. Is he out for interference?

A Albert10+ posts
Today Johnson High School located in San Antonio lost a chance to advance to the 4th round on a interference call. Here is what happen. Bottom of the 7th. Johnson had last at bat. The score is 0-1 with Corpus Christ Carroll ahead. Johnson has 2 outs. No one on base. Pinch hitter comes up hits a solid ball to left and doubles. Now he is on 2nd and is replaced by a pinch runner. The batter who is Number 1 in lineup is intentionally walked so now you have a player on 1st and 2nd. Next batter up and hits a ball to left field. Runner on 2nd rounds 3rd and runs into his Coach (Not the other team's coach). His Coach and himself fall down but runner gets up and scores tying run. The other Coach tells the Upmire it was interference and Ump calls the player out and game is over and Corpus is declared the winner. Is this legal? If yes can you tell me where to find this ruling? i looked and all I see is interference is called if the player runs into the opposing team's player or trying to prevent a double play but this kid ran into his own coach. Any thoughts?
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Jimmy03Jimmy031,000+ posts
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Originally posted by sgvbaseball:
The call is correct. It is not interference but aiding a runner. A base coach is not allowed to make any contact with the base runner of any kind.


Nonsense. The runner is out if the coach physically aided or assisted the runner to advance from or to the base. An out for any kind of contact is a myth that leads to outs being called for high fives.
KaizenKaizen100+ posts
The applicable NFHS rules are 2-21-1c (Offensive Interferece: a coach physically assists a runner during playing action) and 3-2-2 (No coach shall physically assist a runner during playing action).

"Physical assistance" can take many forms including a subtle touch to get the runner's attention, helping the runner up after they have fallen, etc. Therefore, the rule is often interpreted that any physical contact during live action is interference, whether it seems intentional or not.

However, it is not strictly accurate that "a base coach is not allowed to make any contact with the baserunner of any kind". For example, a high five when a home run is hit over the fence is OK.
Jimmy03Jimmy031,000+ posts
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Originally posted by Kaizen:
The applicable NFHS rules are 2-21-1c (Offensive Interferece: a coach physically assists a runner during playing action) and 3-2-2 (No coach shall physically assist a runner during playing action).

"Physical assistance" can take many forms including a subtle touch to get the runner's attention, helping the runner up after they have fallen, etc. Therefore, the rule is often interpreted that any physical contact during live action is interference, whether it seems intentional or not.

However, it is not strictly accurate that "a base coach is not allowed to make any contact with the baserunner of any kind". For example, a high five when a home run is hit over the fence is OK.


Again, the modern interpretation and enforcement regards a coach assisting the runner to advance or return. There is a lot of contact that takes place that does not satisfy this requirement.
Jimmy03Jimmy031,000+ posts
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Originally posted by RJM:
The only way the runner would be out is if the base coach aided him such as helping him get to his feet or shoving him towards home. As you describe the situation it's incidental contact.


Not necessarily. Coaches have been known to get in the way and use a collision to keep their runner from heading home. It is not always cut and dried. It's much easier to call with a three man crew.
RJMRJMHSBaseballWeb member since 2007
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Originally posted by Jimmy03:
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Originally posted by RJM:
The only way the runner would be out is if the base coach aided him such as helping him get to his feet or shoving him towards home. As you describe the situation it's incidental contact.


Not necessarily. Coaches have been known to get in the way and use a collision to keep their runner from heading home. It is not always cut and dried. It's much easier to call with a three man crew.
I was referring to the described play regarding advancing. I've seen what you described. I once yelled sarcastially at a coach if he was a little quicker he would have got the offensive foul.
J JWC32100+ posts
The article that described this play in the Corpus Christi newspaper was confusing over exactly what was called. However, the article also included a quote by the thirdbaseman (the leftfielder threw the ball to third base, not home) saying that he had to move around the coach to throw to the plate. Maybe this is what was call really was, although if so, you wouldn't know it from the paper.

Newspaper Article: http://www.caller.com/news/201...hrilling-fashion-to/

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