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I have to ask a stupid question. Is POP time taken from the time the ball leaves the pitchers hand to the time it hits the 2nd baseman's glove or is it taken from the time it hits the catcher's glove to the time it hits the 2nd baseman's glove. I have heard it is taken both ways but obviously with the difference you can't compare different catchers.

Thanks much.
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Originally posted by Fungo:
Poptime is the elapsed time from the "pop" of the pitch on the catcher’s mitt to the "pop" of the glove on the throw down to second base. Sometimes it is referred to as "pop to pop".
Hope this helps----
Fungo


Yes. Thanks if very much helps. I had always done it this way but someone yesterday said it was from pitcher's release to 2nd base.
The previous post is correct. It is also helpful to note the time it takes for the ball to reach the catchers mit once the pitcher has committed to deliver the ball home. A pitcher who is slow to deliver the ball to the plate renders the catcher pretty helpless to throw out the base stealer. Much over 1.5 seconds to home and then compound that with an off speed pitch and you'll see lots of stolen bases.

Watch the 1st base coach time the delivery with a stop watch.
CatSureMom,
I once overheard my son tell our second catcher that he was would call a pitch that he felt would get a strike rather than call a pitch that would set him up for a throw, when he felt the stolen base was less important. His stats for catching runners is a bit below our other catchers, but opponent productivity when he catches is lower. Stats aren't always the best indicators.
R.Robertson: That is a great point...brings up my other peeve...son is great pitch caller, has never called a single pitch in college ball.
Kudos to the college coach that will let a good catcher call the pitches. Son has learned not to be bothered by stats...he had to instruct SID at his school how to correctly ID wild pitch/passed ball. Son just says "the game has a way of evening things out...don't worry Mom"
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Son just says "the game has a way of evening things out...don't worry Mom"

Wise young man. He KNOWS he can only control what he can control...everything else is for the fans and parents to worry about.

I like the catcher calling the game too. The tempo changes and the players become more involved in the game. Good point.
Fungo
Dont worry about stats period. All you can do is get it down there to the best of your ability. There are a ton of factors. Speed of the runner. The jump the runner gets off the pitcher. Does the pitcher do a good job of holding the runner? What pitch was thrown off speed or fb? Where was the pitch? Outside low and away or up. Inside low or up? In the dirt etc etc etc. Then the situation of the game will dictate wether your worried about the runner or not. The quality of the hitter will be a main factor as well. If your worried about the base runner and the situation calls for an off speed pitch what is more important and what is the biggest threat? These are all factors that will play a part of the decision process. But worrying about stats should never be part of that decision process. NEVER. People that matter can see arm strength from behind the plate. YOu can teach footwork. You can teach transfer etc. But you can not teach a hose from behind the dish. If you have the ability to catch at the next level and you throws seeds down to second base then no one is going to be worried about your cs percentage. Coaches know that there are many factors here that are totally out of your controll. Worry about the things you can controll and not the things you can not. Its not your job to teach pitchers how to hold runners. Its your job to make the best throw that you can make. JMHO

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