What is a decent pop time for a varsity catcher
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I keep hearing that 2.0 is decent for high school. <2.0 to 1.8 is what is on most shopping lists
obrady
if an 1.8 is on the shopping list it is a very short list
2.0/2.1 is fine in HS in fact it is probably well below the norm in HS
if an 1.8 is on the shopping list it is a very short list
2.0/2.1 is fine in HS in fact it is probably well below the norm in HS
What are the differences in Pop times from D1-D2-D3 catchers? Thanks alot...
I would imagine that there shouldn't be too much of a difference...
I would imagine that there shouldn't be too much of a difference...
The differences are miniscule--- also keep in mind that pop times mean nothing if the pitcher does not do his job holding the runner on
TR and others can probably give you more on this but my son throws a 2.0 in practice – never timed him in a game situation. But I think the biggest difference is he puts the ball on the bag. You can throw a 1.8 but if it pulls the fielder off the bag (left, right or up) your not going to get many outs.
I still think the throw to second is way overly rated – you want to concentrate on receiving the ball.
I still think the throw to second is way overly rated – you want to concentrate on receiving the ball.
I'm watching Texas play the Angels as I read this, and the Texas catcher threw a guy out at second. I replayed it, counted the frames. The pop time was 1.97.
I've timed many throw downs of major leaguers, and the game pop is almost always right at 2.0, give or take. (I've never done it with a Pudge throw.)
This makes me believe that 2.0 game pop is the standard. I have a hard time believing that a lot of high schoolers have game pop times of 2.0.
I've never been able to measure my own kid'd in-game pop time, but I will have the video camera out this season trying to catch one. I have almost zero trust in the accuracy of a stopwatch in game situations done by someone in the stands.
I've timed many throw downs of major leaguers, and the game pop is almost always right at 2.0, give or take. (I've never done it with a Pudge throw.)
This makes me believe that 2.0 game pop is the standard. I have a hard time believing that a lot of high schoolers have game pop times of 2.0.
I've never been able to measure my own kid'd in-game pop time, but I will have the video camera out this season trying to catch one. I have almost zero trust in the accuracy of a stopwatch in game situations done by someone in the stands.
The average HS catcher will be in the 2.2 range between innings and in game will be around 2.3. The above average HS catcher will be in the 2.1 - 2.05 range between innings and around 2.2 2.15 in game. The exceptional HS catcher will be 1.9- 2.0 between innings and 2.0-2.1 in game. Then there are the few and far between that will be in the 1.8 range between innings and 1.9 range in game. Pop times are alot like pitchers velocity readings you hear about. "He throws 90"! And then you put a gun on him and he is topping out at 83. I have heard too many times "He throws a 1.9"! Only to see it arc to second base and be a 2.2. Im with Rob 100% on this one. 2.0 accurate to the bag is the benchmark for a catcher in game pop.
I should clarify my previous post – my son has been clocked at 2.0 in a couple of camps – I have no idea how “generous” the times were or what his true average is.
i was just wondering because in practice i got timed at 2.2 and i wasnt sure how good that was for me being a sophomore and i have 2 1/2 years left i think i can get it down to a 2.0 or 1.8 by then if i work hard
2.2 as a sophomore is fine--- you are where you want to be
TR is correct. If that is a true and accurate time 2.2 as a soph is fine. My son came into HS as a freshman at 2.1 to 2.15. As a soph he was 2.1 to 2.0 and this year he is 1.95 in games and throws some high 1.8's between innings. He was 1.98 in games at the WWBA last summer timed by the PG staff. The things that helped him are #1 gained arm strength from long toss and alot of core work. #2 Worked hard on his footwork and transfer. #3 Made sure he was getting behind the baseball and not over throwing and letting the ball get deep and not chasing it.
Alot of kids get in trouble with their mechanics behind the plate by trying to rush things to compensate for lack of arm strength. And some do not have good mechanics behind the dish ie footwork etc. If you are really interested in becoming the best you can be I highly believe you should get with a guy that teaches catching specifically just like pitchers have a pitching coach you need a catching coach. Unless you have a HS coach that has the experience to properly teach the posistion. Good Luck
Alot of kids get in trouble with their mechanics behind the plate by trying to rush things to compensate for lack of arm strength. And some do not have good mechanics behind the dish ie footwork etc. If you are really interested in becoming the best you can be I highly believe you should get with a guy that teaches catching specifically just like pitchers have a pitching coach you need a catching coach. Unless you have a HS coach that has the experience to properly teach the posistion. Good Luck
MLB average is 2.0.
Pudge is/was 1.7 or 1.8.
Pudge is/was 1.7 or 1.8.
Pudge is extraordinary so was Benito Santiago
quote:Pudge is extraordinary so was Benito Santiago
Yes, 1.7 is extraordinary, maybe comparable to 100+ MPH pitcher.
Pudge has been timed at 1.67. Heard that while he was in Florida. Many MLB'ers throw between 1.75 and 2.0.
Whats the difference is what the pitcher is doing, how well he holds, how long he takes going home and what kind of jump the runner has. It only counts game time, so quickness and accuracy will always give the receiver a chance.
Whats the difference is what the pitcher is doing, how well he holds, how long he takes going home and what kind of jump the runner has. It only counts game time, so quickness and accuracy will always give the receiver a chance.
