RR I couldn't agree with you more;
"pitches batters have the most trouble with at the MLB level...it isn't a 90+ mph FB. The pitch they have the most trouble with is the changeup thrown behind a good FB....Especially if you have a good CB that looks like the chngeup and moves late in the opposite direction."
"You never get a second chance to make a first impression." ...and first impressions are huge. Make sure you're ready to bring it, physically and mentally, before you go. Once you know you're ready, chase that dream...
Doc I never take anything in a bad light. I would not call myself bitter but very critical about the inefficiencies of scouting.
Florida that is my point exactly for young players. I saw a 17 yr old guy at a camp go on the mound and he was asked to throw 3 fast balls. The 1st one hit 68mph. The scout put his gun back in its case,rushed him through and said next. There are way too many great ball players to keep track of. Most scouts are slightly jadded by all the guys they see. Some scouts are very nice and will spend time with a young kid if time permits.
My son was selected by pro scouts at the Canon Cup to tryout for the Ontario Youth Team. Unfortunatly Lumley was the coach and we all in Ontario know waht that means.
My son played 18U district allstar. There are 8 regions and the best players from the OBA teams were selected by the coaches from all the teams to play in the Hall of Fame Allstar games at the Hall of Fame in St Marys. He was picked to play on the 17U Hall of Fame Allstar game and he was a 16U player playing 18U DA. the games were scheduled during Gillick's induction into the hall of fame. Unfortunately the games were rained out. Yes when the scouts come to see a kid they often have blinders on. Romak was one of Lumley's favoured sons. He was a good hitter. My son beat his DA team 3-1. One of the News clips I have on my DVD. That year his team won the DA playoffs and his team had guys on it that are now in the minors. He worked out all winter with a couple of them. One is a LHP who is in his 4th year in the minors. He said my son was better than half the pitchers on his team.
RR I would never say not to go to these but 15 is too young. several of my sons friends threw 85+ consistently. Non of them have had any scouts chase them and a couple do not play ball anymore. Arm issues, girls, coach issues other interests etc.I have purposly brought my son along slowly. Now his school has him 24-7 and he has already added 7 lbs.I am still shocked that the scouts have not chased him.
15 is too young to throw all out as they have not finished their growth spurts. Many camps do not want 15 year olds there. They will let you attend if you showup but they often put 16 as a floor.
Florida that is my point exactly for young players. I saw a 17 yr old guy at a camp go on the mound and he was asked to throw 3 fast balls. The 1st one hit 68mph. The scout put his gun back in its case,rushed him through and said next. There are way too many great ball players to keep track of. Most scouts are slightly jadded by all the guys they see. Some scouts are very nice and will spend time with a young kid if time permits.
My son was selected by pro scouts at the Canon Cup to tryout for the Ontario Youth Team. Unfortunatly Lumley was the coach and we all in Ontario know waht that means.
My son played 18U district allstar. There are 8 regions and the best players from the OBA teams were selected by the coaches from all the teams to play in the Hall of Fame Allstar games at the Hall of Fame in St Marys. He was picked to play on the 17U Hall of Fame Allstar game and he was a 16U player playing 18U DA. the games were scheduled during Gillick's induction into the hall of fame. Unfortunately the games were rained out. Yes when the scouts come to see a kid they often have blinders on. Romak was one of Lumley's favoured sons. He was a good hitter. My son beat his DA team 3-1. One of the News clips I have on my DVD. That year his team won the DA playoffs and his team had guys on it that are now in the minors. He worked out all winter with a couple of them. One is a LHP who is in his 4th year in the minors. He said my son was better than half the pitchers on his team.
RR I would never say not to go to these but 15 is too young. several of my sons friends threw 85+ consistently. Non of them have had any scouts chase them and a couple do not play ball anymore. Arm issues, girls, coach issues other interests etc.I have purposly brought my son along slowly. Now his school has him 24-7 and he has already added 7 lbs.I am still shocked that the scouts have not chased him.
15 is too young to throw all out as they have not finished their growth spurts. Many camps do not want 15 year olds there. They will let you attend if you showup but they often put 16 as a floor.
To say that a pro try-out for a 15 year old player is a “waste of time” doesn’t make sense to me. I think any time a player has the opportunity to throw, hit, run, or even talk baseball in front of any “baseball person” he is putting one more feather in his cap and experiencing one more aspect of baseball. My son went when he was fifteen and I have no idea if anyone noticed him or not. Who cares? This is part of a process and not just an “event”.
I have to give professional scouts more credit that most. These are professional people that evaluate players based on what they see .... Not what you and I think. What are scouts looking for? I don’t know but I always hoped it was what my son had. Some scouts told me they didn’t like my son’s talent. I can see that. Sometimes even I didn’t like my son’s talent. I would never criticize a scout for not liking my son’s ability. He’s just expressing his opinion and others could think differently. I know that any scout that is evaluating my son is much more knowledgeable than me about baseball and knows more about what is needed to move to the next level. Hopefully they are more objective than me. To ME (can’t speak for my son) this was never about getting a pro contract but just having the opportunity to step forward and being able to compete.
Fungo
I have to give professional scouts more credit that most. These are professional people that evaluate players based on what they see .... Not what you and I think. What are scouts looking for? I don’t know but I always hoped it was what my son had. Some scouts told me they didn’t like my son’s talent. I can see that. Sometimes even I didn’t like my son’s talent. I would never criticize a scout for not liking my son’s ability. He’s just expressing his opinion and others could think differently. I know that any scout that is evaluating my son is much more knowledgeable than me about baseball and knows more about what is needed to move to the next level. Hopefully they are more objective than me. To ME (can’t speak for my son) this was never about getting a pro contract but just having the opportunity to step forward and being able to compete.
Fungo
I have to agree with the "go" crowd. It was pretty much of a no-brainer around here. The MLSB had the tryouts in Pueblo so it cost us nothing (okay, maybe a couple bucks in gas) to attend and I know for a fact his name was entered in their system as shortly thereafter on an away tournament a couple of scouts called the coach about when he would be throwing. Plus, at the tryout he got some free instruction from a couple scouts. It was a win-win situation for us.
He also went as a 16 and 17 yo.
I've often agreed with the "first impression" theory, but I also believe "nothing ventured, nothing gained".
For those that do not believe in going, I have a hard time believing that the scouts are going to keep your son's name and blackball him because of how he did as a 15 yo.
JMO.
He also went as a 16 and 17 yo.
I've often agreed with the "first impression" theory, but I also believe "nothing ventured, nothing gained".
For those that do not believe in going, I have a hard time believing that the scouts are going to keep your son's name and blackball him because of how he did as a 15 yo.
JMO.
I too don't understand the thinking that pro-tyouts are a waste of time for 15 yo's. Sure the primary reason for the tryout is to look for talent to be drafted for the next year. But the 15 yo isn't going to attend to get drafted or signed right now. And if you go into the try out with the proper mindset, then there are many benefits.
1) If the player stands out, he may get on a follow-list for those scouts in attendance. If he doesn't - who cares he's just 15. (I don't think they will black ball the kid because he didn't measure up to ML standards at 15.)
2) Some of the tryouts, especially the ones run by individual clubs will have local college coaches in attendance, and in some cases will actually run part of the drills. (The one my son attended had 2-3 coaches who were manning the radar guns.) (Exposure to college coaches - helps when you write that letter a few years down the road and and you can say, Dear Coach, I met you at the (fill in) tryout camp back in -(fill in the year. And if the kid has improved since the tryout - he can state that in his letter.)
3) Provides your son an opportunity to experience the pro-sytle tryout, which in my mind helps them prepare for future showcases as they know what to expect. Improves their confidence.
4) Son may get some tips from the scouts, especially if their is a hitch/proplem in their technique that can be corrected immediately.
5) It's free!!!
6) It's fun!!!
7) Players get to interact with other players - sort of like networking. Never know what kind of relationships will develop.
My son had a blast at the tryout he attended and is looking forward to attending as many as he can in the coming years.
1) If the player stands out, he may get on a follow-list for those scouts in attendance. If he doesn't - who cares he's just 15. (I don't think they will black ball the kid because he didn't measure up to ML standards at 15.)
2) Some of the tryouts, especially the ones run by individual clubs will have local college coaches in attendance, and in some cases will actually run part of the drills. (The one my son attended had 2-3 coaches who were manning the radar guns.) (Exposure to college coaches - helps when you write that letter a few years down the road and and you can say, Dear Coach, I met you at the (fill in) tryout camp back in -(fill in the year. And if the kid has improved since the tryout - he can state that in his letter.)
3) Provides your son an opportunity to experience the pro-sytle tryout, which in my mind helps them prepare for future showcases as they know what to expect. Improves their confidence.
4) Son may get some tips from the scouts, especially if their is a hitch/proplem in their technique that can be corrected immediately.
5) It's free!!!
6) It's fun!!!
7) Players get to interact with other players - sort of like networking. Never know what kind of relationships will develop.
My son had a blast at the tryout he attended and is looking forward to attending as many as he can in the coming years.
It must be the subconsious fear for failing. Not now we'll do it later. Soon, later turns into, we should have done it back then.
sonisclass08,
Great post. And I'll add one more to your list of why go - every questionnaire from colleges at all levels asks for the names of any scouts who have seen you. The tryouts can provide the names and a face to face contact.
Great post. And I'll add one more to your list of why go - every questionnaire from colleges at all levels asks for the names of any scouts who have seen you. The tryouts can provide the names and a face to face contact.
wisbballmom,
Good point!
Good point!
wisbballmom,
That's a good point. In my son's case there were 5 scouts from different teams in attendance. Thankfully, I made sure that my son got all their names and team affiliations.
One of things that we have considered for the future would be after attending tryouts, to write to each of the scouts and college coaches that are in attendance - thanking them for their time and assistance. (Scout addresses can be found in a few different publications - We have the Baseball Blue Book.) It can't hurt and as scouts talk to each other as well as college coaches, you never know they may put a good plug in for you in the future.
That's a good point. In my son's case there were 5 scouts from different teams in attendance. Thankfully, I made sure that my son got all their names and team affiliations.
One of things that we have considered for the future would be after attending tryouts, to write to each of the scouts and college coaches that are in attendance - thanking them for their time and assistance. (Scout addresses can be found in a few different publications - We have the Baseball Blue Book.) It can't hurt and as scouts talk to each other as well as college coaches, you never know they may put a good plug in for you in the future.
If you are self interested yes go ?
Who talked about blackballing a 15 yr old ?
Who bad mouthed a scout ?
We went at 15 and it was boring for a pitcher. Too many pitchers too little time.
My son also has several scouts that check out when he is taking the mound. Sat beside 2 at a game he pitched and hewas 15 playing under 18 district allstar. The 1st 2 pitches were hit for doubles and then he settled in and won 3-1, 12Ks 5 hits over 7 innings.The comments from the scouts were "this kid can pitch", "how old did you say he was?" He has been carded by scouts all over the US and Canada.
I have been to several camps that they put a 16 yr limit because the scouts don't have the time when their are 50-70 pitchers to get through. These guys have a job to do and their jobs depend on finding talent that is ready to go. They are even moving away from HS players because of the development time. There has been a move towards college players who they can get up to speed quicker and have shown commitment at a high level.
We went to a college showcase when my son was 15 because his team hosted it. The head coach who was from SC singled him out as a top college prospect and watched him throw for 20 minutes and just stared at him. There were 50 pitchers there several whom were drafted. All of them went to college. This camp had scouts from California,Texas NY Michigan etc. It was a 3day camp. The 3rd day only the seniors were allow to partcipate.
Ps I do know the mchanics of pitching and all pitchers need tweaking because if left to their own devices they start bad habits. There are lots of opinions about how to throw such as Drop And Drive and Tall and fall. I have read prctically every book on the subject, videoed Pro scouts break down and rebuild a pitchers mechanics. My son's doctor has a small chatpter in "The Pitchers Edge" Tom House and Nolan Ryan. He works with some of the top pitchers in the MLB. He also works with the top 3 NASCAR drives. The alst time we were at his office he got a call on his cell. I could hear him saying "Jimmy I got a baseball pitcher on the table. I got no time for you car drivers" Yes Jimmy Johnston interuptin my kids session. This doctor dosen't even charge us. He does Nascar because the pay is better. This guys 1st love is baseball. This doctor gives him a checkup straightens neck back etc and checks his shoulder and elbow. He then takes himoutside and doing the towel drill checks his mechanics. One time was getting minor shoulder pain and pointed out he was dropping his sight elbow which puts stress on his throwing shoulder. Not serious nut tells him this is a high elbow game. A lot of pitchers trying to throw hard open up their front side too soon reducing their velocity. Lefties tend to stand up too straight and do not keep their center of balance over the rubber which restricts the hips(lower Body) comming through to maximize power.
Getting back to my point is that there are better things you could do withyour time. Ctachers included.
Doc going to a pro tryout to me is dangerous at 15. Comebackers are travelling a lot quicker than what he is used to. As a coach I probably would have an age limit there as well. I can just imagine the liability regardeless of waivers. I would never let a 15yr old on the mound facing 21+ year olds.
Who talked about blackballing a 15 yr old ?
Who bad mouthed a scout ?
We went at 15 and it was boring for a pitcher. Too many pitchers too little time.
My son also has several scouts that check out when he is taking the mound. Sat beside 2 at a game he pitched and hewas 15 playing under 18 district allstar. The 1st 2 pitches were hit for doubles and then he settled in and won 3-1, 12Ks 5 hits over 7 innings.The comments from the scouts were "this kid can pitch", "how old did you say he was?" He has been carded by scouts all over the US and Canada.
I have been to several camps that they put a 16 yr limit because the scouts don't have the time when their are 50-70 pitchers to get through. These guys have a job to do and their jobs depend on finding talent that is ready to go. They are even moving away from HS players because of the development time. There has been a move towards college players who they can get up to speed quicker and have shown commitment at a high level.
We went to a college showcase when my son was 15 because his team hosted it. The head coach who was from SC singled him out as a top college prospect and watched him throw for 20 minutes and just stared at him. There were 50 pitchers there several whom were drafted. All of them went to college. This camp had scouts from California,Texas NY Michigan etc. It was a 3day camp. The 3rd day only the seniors were allow to partcipate.
Ps I do know the mchanics of pitching and all pitchers need tweaking because if left to their own devices they start bad habits. There are lots of opinions about how to throw such as Drop And Drive and Tall and fall. I have read prctically every book on the subject, videoed Pro scouts break down and rebuild a pitchers mechanics. My son's doctor has a small chatpter in "The Pitchers Edge" Tom House and Nolan Ryan. He works with some of the top pitchers in the MLB. He also works with the top 3 NASCAR drives. The alst time we were at his office he got a call on his cell. I could hear him saying "Jimmy I got a baseball pitcher on the table. I got no time for you car drivers" Yes Jimmy Johnston interuptin my kids session. This doctor dosen't even charge us. He does Nascar because the pay is better. This guys 1st love is baseball. This doctor gives him a checkup straightens neck back etc and checks his shoulder and elbow. He then takes himoutside and doing the towel drill checks his mechanics. One time was getting minor shoulder pain and pointed out he was dropping his sight elbow which puts stress on his throwing shoulder. Not serious nut tells him this is a high elbow game. A lot of pitchers trying to throw hard open up their front side too soon reducing their velocity. Lefties tend to stand up too straight and do not keep their center of balance over the rubber which restricts the hips(lower Body) comming through to maximize power.
Getting back to my point is that there are better things you could do withyour time. Ctachers included.
Doc going to a pro tryout to me is dangerous at 15. Comebackers are travelling a lot quicker than what he is used to. As a coach I probably would have an age limit there as well. I can just imagine the liability regardeless of waivers. I would never let a 15yr old on the mound facing 21+ year olds.
I would agree partially with that point Wish but to finish the Question on the form. What scouts have seen you recently ?
B-headDoll,
I'm sorry you and your son's experience at a tryout was boring. It sounds like your experiences were vastly different from my son's. This could have been since the tryout was in a small town in S.D. and less than 40 players showed up. The web site annoucement (Phillies) indicated that 15 yo's were permitted - most tyrouts limit to 16 and over. I wonder if becasuse the tryout was in a small town in the middle of nowhere is why the permitted 15yo's?
(The scout running the tryout was from the Padres, but their were scouts from the Phillies, Marlins, Twins, and one other that escapes my mind at the moment.)
My son had plenty of time to talk and work with the various scouts. Recognizing that as a 15 yo, his pitching velocity wasn't going to be anything spectacular, we decided he'd get the most benefit out of the tryout as an infielder.
Over half of the participants were pitchers, with only a handful of infielders/outfielders/catchers. He got to do all the usual stuff (60, fielding and batting practice against live pitching.) But what was good as far as the infield portion was that he got to field the BP for most of the morning - taking reps against the older kids. This is where he got a few tips and words of praise from a couple of the scouts (Marlins and Twins).
Since there weren't that many particpants, my son asked if he could pitch - even though he wasn't orginally signed up to do so. Scout running the tryout was very encouraging and allowed him to do so. Son pitched against a recent college grad and held his own. But two things really stand out. First, one of the scouts (Phillies), who was on the mound with him calling pitches, showed him a new way to throw a CU - that he still uses today. Secondly, he was able to have his pitches gunned, and he saw that he had an increase of 4 mph since the last time he was gunned. This obviously made him very happy.
At the end of the tryout, the scouts gathered everyone around and told them what they were looking for MLB - 90+ velocity, 6.9 60 times, etc. (Only one kid - the recent college grad, came anywhere near those times.) However, scouts thanked everyone for particpating, said keep working at improving and told them that several would be entered into their follow lists. (Don't know if my kid was one.) They also indicated that they hoped they see them all next year - to at least see how much they improved.
As I previously indicated, son had a blast - and we felt it was well worth the 4-hour drive and staying overnight.
I guess it all depends what you want to get out of the tryouts as to whether or not you feel its worth it.
I'm sorry you and your son's experience at a tryout was boring. It sounds like your experiences were vastly different from my son's. This could have been since the tryout was in a small town in S.D. and less than 40 players showed up. The web site annoucement (Phillies) indicated that 15 yo's were permitted - most tyrouts limit to 16 and over. I wonder if becasuse the tryout was in a small town in the middle of nowhere is why the permitted 15yo's?
(The scout running the tryout was from the Padres, but their were scouts from the Phillies, Marlins, Twins, and one other that escapes my mind at the moment.)
My son had plenty of time to talk and work with the various scouts. Recognizing that as a 15 yo, his pitching velocity wasn't going to be anything spectacular, we decided he'd get the most benefit out of the tryout as an infielder.
Over half of the participants were pitchers, with only a handful of infielders/outfielders/catchers. He got to do all the usual stuff (60, fielding and batting practice against live pitching.) But what was good as far as the infield portion was that he got to field the BP for most of the morning - taking reps against the older kids. This is where he got a few tips and words of praise from a couple of the scouts (Marlins and Twins).
Since there weren't that many particpants, my son asked if he could pitch - even though he wasn't orginally signed up to do so. Scout running the tryout was very encouraging and allowed him to do so. Son pitched against a recent college grad and held his own. But two things really stand out. First, one of the scouts (Phillies), who was on the mound with him calling pitches, showed him a new way to throw a CU - that he still uses today. Secondly, he was able to have his pitches gunned, and he saw that he had an increase of 4 mph since the last time he was gunned. This obviously made him very happy.
At the end of the tryout, the scouts gathered everyone around and told them what they were looking for MLB - 90+ velocity, 6.9 60 times, etc. (Only one kid - the recent college grad, came anywhere near those times.) However, scouts thanked everyone for particpating, said keep working at improving and told them that several would be entered into their follow lists. (Don't know if my kid was one.) They also indicated that they hoped they see them all next year - to at least see how much they improved.
As I previously indicated, son had a blast - and we felt it was well worth the 4-hour drive and staying overnight.
I guess it all depends what you want to get out of the tryouts as to whether or not you feel its worth it.
I understand that you had a good time. Imagine 200 studs at a camp. You only get to throw against the gun. No mini games or a couple of innings. You get a number like 79 (15yrs old) and you sit around waiting for your turn. Maybe shag a few balls but there are 60 guys in the outfield shagging and bumping into each other.
I can see where it would be exciting to go to a small camp but after a few you will understand were I am coming from.
We went to a college camp at 15 that I mentioned and didn't go again untill he was 19. He had about 14-15 schools willing to make offers from that camp. We got beautifull school prgrams handed to us and got as many as 4 calls in one day. WE were interested in a couple but his 2 favourites came from our effots with e-mails ,calls and videos. One great offer came from a team in CT after seeing my son pitch in the Long Island Classic against the LI Tigers. My son had an offer in 05 to go to a high school in GA for his final year and would have but he could not graduate with his friends in Canada and he chose to graduate.
A small camp may be of interest but there are mostly big ones here.
We went to a Jays camp and the scouts came right out and said that this is not a collge showcase and that they were only interested in identifying players with pro potential. Cut and dry. The best camp we went to. He was 17 and was asked to stay back with 5 other pitchers the youngest of which was 20yo. He threw well and was talked to after and filled out an info card and was told he was a prospect and in their data base.
Maybe we have become a little jadded after attending so many and watching hard throwers get drafted who can't pitch worth a ****.
He has just made the 25 man travel roster in his NCAA D1 school as a freshman. His mid terms were excellent and this was a school of his choice.
If you don't have good coaching available in your area you should find some good books videos especially as a pitcher. Bad habits can end careers. There is a lot more to pitching than most people realise.
I prefer to see a young ball player spend his time on getting excelent coaching and when he goes to a camp he shows sound skills.
I can see where it would be exciting to go to a small camp but after a few you will understand were I am coming from.
We went to a college camp at 15 that I mentioned and didn't go again untill he was 19. He had about 14-15 schools willing to make offers from that camp. We got beautifull school prgrams handed to us and got as many as 4 calls in one day. WE were interested in a couple but his 2 favourites came from our effots with e-mails ,calls and videos. One great offer came from a team in CT after seeing my son pitch in the Long Island Classic against the LI Tigers. My son had an offer in 05 to go to a high school in GA for his final year and would have but he could not graduate with his friends in Canada and he chose to graduate.
A small camp may be of interest but there are mostly big ones here.
We went to a Jays camp and the scouts came right out and said that this is not a collge showcase and that they were only interested in identifying players with pro potential. Cut and dry. The best camp we went to. He was 17 and was asked to stay back with 5 other pitchers the youngest of which was 20yo. He threw well and was talked to after and filled out an info card and was told he was a prospect and in their data base.
Maybe we have become a little jadded after attending so many and watching hard throwers get drafted who can't pitch worth a ****.
He has just made the 25 man travel roster in his NCAA D1 school as a freshman. His mid terms were excellent and this was a school of his choice.
If you don't have good coaching available in your area you should find some good books videos especially as a pitcher. Bad habits can end careers. There is a lot more to pitching than most people realise.
I prefer to see a young ball player spend his time on getting excelent coaching and when he goes to a camp he shows sound skills.
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BBH,
Please don't take this the wrong way, but it appears from your posts that you are disappointed that your son was not drafted.
I am not a strong prpponent for 15 young ones attending showcases, mostly due to the large expense. But if it is for free and a chance to see the talent out there, I say go.
When son was 15 he wa chosen to try out for USA team and flown to housont for a week of tryouts (he didn't make it). My son was young for a tryout, not nearly hitting 90 as teh others, but had good stuff, which got better as he grew and matured. Good experience.
Three years later, a scout that came to our home told him that he had seen him pitch down in Houston and had been following his development.
A post that PG had made a while back about the importance of scouts and coaches watching players develop over the years is absolutely true.
I may have missed it, but what school does yur son attend? I was curious because at son's school, no one finds out until after spring practice who does or does not make the travel roster.
Good luck to your son.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but it appears from your posts that you are disappointed that your son was not drafted.
I am not a strong prpponent for 15 young ones attending showcases, mostly due to the large expense. But if it is for free and a chance to see the talent out there, I say go.
When son was 15 he wa chosen to try out for USA team and flown to housont for a week of tryouts (he didn't make it). My son was young for a tryout, not nearly hitting 90 as teh others, but had good stuff, which got better as he grew and matured. Good experience.
Three years later, a scout that came to our home told him that he had seen him pitch down in Houston and had been following his development.
A post that PG had made a while back about the importance of scouts and coaches watching players develop over the years is absolutely true.
I may have missed it, but what school does yur son attend? I was curious because at son's school, no one finds out until after spring practice who does or does not make the travel roster.
Good luck to your son.
TPM by now you know where my son goes to school and that he made the Travel Roster. We were prepared to see himsit if that were the case. He himself was not happy with his pitching in the fall.
As far as 15s at MLB camps my opinion is it is a waste of time and dangerous. These camps have 20-25 year olds. They hit a lot harder than 15-16 year olds. Unless the camp is small the scouts have little or no time to deal with the 15s.
I hope that no one takes this the wrong way and if you are honest with yourself Fugo's question " whoes decision is this? Your's or your son's ?"
As far as 15s at MLB camps my opinion is it is a waste of time and dangerous. These camps have 20-25 year olds. They hit a lot harder than 15-16 year olds. Unless the camp is small the scouts have little or no time to deal with the 15s.
I hope that no one takes this the wrong way and if you are honest with yourself Fugo's question " whoes decision is this? Your's or your son's ?"
quote:These camps have 20-25 year olds. They hit a lot harder than 15-16 year olds.
Excellent observations..........