Summer college league in Lacey, WA. www.pugetsoundcollegiateleague.com
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Is a Pay-to Play Summer League like PSCL a thing of the future?
$600 for 35 games over seven weeks to play in a developmental league and an opportunity to play non-league games against top flight competition.
And why is this NOT advertising?
$600 for 35 games over seven weeks to play in a developmental league and an opportunity to play non-league games against top flight competition.
And why is this NOT advertising?
Bear, I don't know much about this league, but I've heard they were starting up to provide players who otherwise don't have anywhere to go an opportunity to compete.
American Legion in the Northwest (maybe nationally?) has changed their rules so players finishing their freshman year at the J.C. level cannot play for them. Since D1 players dominate the upper-collegiate leagues, where do these players go to play? Perhaps some 19u competitive teams will take them, but usually (from what I've seen) they don't play at all!
I think there is a HUGE NEED for leagues like this.
American Legion in the Northwest (maybe nationally?) has changed their rules so players finishing their freshman year at the J.C. level cannot play for them. Since D1 players dominate the upper-collegiate leagues, where do these players go to play? Perhaps some 19u competitive teams will take them, but usually (from what I've seen) they don't play at all!
I think there is a HUGE NEED for leagues like this.
I have not heard that about American Legion.
Winter meetings are in early December.
Didn't AmLeg change their age eligeable
rules (~five years ago) to include 19U?
With that age change, I expected the 16U who would be playing Legion, be turned away (primarily because of the roster limitations.......which I believe remains an issue.)
I don't see the AmLeg in the Northwest have different eligible rules than across the country.
I am aware beginning Jan. 1, 2010, AmLeg coaches application process will be electronic. Thus
I expect team applications and rosters will become online. (This was an issue in Maryland and the dishonorable State Chairman, a few years back)
Winter meetings are in early December.
Didn't AmLeg change their age eligeable
rules (~five years ago) to include 19U?
With that age change, I expected the 16U who would be playing Legion, be turned away (primarily because of the roster limitations.......which I believe remains an issue.)
I don't see the AmLeg in the Northwest have different eligible rules than across the country.
I am aware beginning Jan. 1, 2010, AmLeg coaches application process will be electronic. Thus
I expect team applications and rosters will become online. (This was an issue in Maryland and the dishonorable State Chairman, a few years back)
I know a very talented player, a friend of Bum, Jr's, who had nowhere to play this past season because the top summer leagues went after the high-profile D1 guys and American Legion told him he was too old. He had just finished his freshman year playing JC ball and was 19. The poor kid experienced a summer without baseball. So yes, I see pay-to-play as filling a need. A lot of these summer leagues are pay-to-play anyway.
More than happy to answer your questions. No I'm not trying to advertise this to make my living. I'm doing this for my players and other players in the area so they can get better and develop. We are looking for players from outside the area that might have relatives, friends or are returning home. As of now we have a few host families, but in the future we would like to be able to invite more out of area players.
In the past my younger players would play on a Connie Mack or Legion team. The results even then were mixed. Some of my players were playing against competion that was sub par. I watched a few games that shouldn't have happen. I saw on of my young 88-90 mph arms facing a 16 year old that didn't make the HS team. That arm later made a velo jump and was taken in the 8th round. The 16 year old was more worried about not getting hit. The ones that were too old would do nothing. Same thing with the sophomores, good enough or zero options.
I'm a JC coach who also coaches in the West Coast League. I created a team 5 years ago and hired coaches from outside the area to come in and coach. The team was made up of my JC players and other local kids that were over looked or not ready for the WCL or PIL. Those teams in the WCL and PIL need games to fill out there schedules. The two leagues don't traditionally play each other, one is college and the other takes ex-pro's and grads. After one year we had to create a second team because of the amount of players who wanted to play and the need of games from those two leagues. For the first 5 years these teams played on the road the majority of the time and were over matched as the season went on. Over matched because we make kids availible to the WCL and PIL to pick up players from these teams. So as the season goes they were losing players.
The solution was to make a developmental league. We have more than enough kids that want and need to play. We could spread out the games against the WCL and PIL. It would allow us to move players from teams if we did have a number of players picked up. The kids would have something to play for. The key was the opening of the Regional Athletic Complex in Lacey. Fields that could take that wear and tear with lights are a premium in the NW, like anywhere.
So far we've had a great response in the area. We want to get the word out for kids returning home and ones who would like to come to the area. The better the talent the better the kids are going to get. I personally had the idea and set it up with the City of Lacey. I put the two teams that I had exsisting in the league because I think it is a positive thing and believe in it. I'm helping it get off the ground and to get the word out. I have the people in place and board to make it go. I'll be around if they need me, but I'm hoping to step away once it starts to roll. It costs $600 because that field isn't cheap, start up uniforms, an over night trip to Bend for each team and having quality college coaches cost money. I'm just trying to serve the baseball community and my community.
In the past my younger players would play on a Connie Mack or Legion team. The results even then were mixed. Some of my players were playing against competion that was sub par. I watched a few games that shouldn't have happen. I saw on of my young 88-90 mph arms facing a 16 year old that didn't make the HS team. That arm later made a velo jump and was taken in the 8th round. The 16 year old was more worried about not getting hit. The ones that were too old would do nothing. Same thing with the sophomores, good enough or zero options.
I'm a JC coach who also coaches in the West Coast League. I created a team 5 years ago and hired coaches from outside the area to come in and coach. The team was made up of my JC players and other local kids that were over looked or not ready for the WCL or PIL. Those teams in the WCL and PIL need games to fill out there schedules. The two leagues don't traditionally play each other, one is college and the other takes ex-pro's and grads. After one year we had to create a second team because of the amount of players who wanted to play and the need of games from those two leagues. For the first 5 years these teams played on the road the majority of the time and were over matched as the season went on. Over matched because we make kids availible to the WCL and PIL to pick up players from these teams. So as the season goes they were losing players.
The solution was to make a developmental league. We have more than enough kids that want and need to play. We could spread out the games against the WCL and PIL. It would allow us to move players from teams if we did have a number of players picked up. The kids would have something to play for. The key was the opening of the Regional Athletic Complex in Lacey. Fields that could take that wear and tear with lights are a premium in the NW, like anywhere.
So far we've had a great response in the area. We want to get the word out for kids returning home and ones who would like to come to the area. The better the talent the better the kids are going to get. I personally had the idea and set it up with the City of Lacey. I put the two teams that I had exsisting in the league because I think it is a positive thing and believe in it. I'm helping it get off the ground and to get the word out. I have the people in place and board to make it go. I'll be around if they need me, but I'm hoping to step away once it starts to roll. It costs $600 because that field isn't cheap, start up uniforms, an over night trip to Bend for each team and having quality college coaches cost money. I'm just trying to serve the baseball community and my community.
Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.