Question on performance "norms".

JT,

If it’s the same 2-8 point grading system used by MLB scouts, it means a 5 would be MLB average. A 6 above average, a 7 well above average (plus). An 8 would be the best in MLB baseball. A 4 would be below average, a 3 well below average, a 2 would be NP. There are other definitions used at times. But hopefully you get the idea.

The normal H-1 times are from contact with the bat to contact at 1B. 3.71 from RH was probably run without swinging the bat or timed incorrectly. 4-2, 4-3 is MLB average H-1 from right side. 3.71 would be world class speed. The 3.7 H-1 would grade out an "8"! (see above)

The 6.7 is a very good 60 time but not unusual. 6.9 to 7.0 is MLB average. The 6.7 indoors would probably grade out a 6 at best. Or depending on the players position some might grade it higher or lower for that position.

3.71 depending on how it was timed is well above the norm. a 4.0 is considered ++ and thats in the minors

Ah ha. Thanks for the info from both, especially PG's explanation.

I'll have to ask how it was timed...I think he got a 4.2 at a camp a couple summers ago, and that was a true time with a swing. Jeffrey did say something about the 60 time graded a 6, from the strength coach. At least now I have another use for my stop watch

PG,
Do they use the same 8 point scale for grading pitchers arms?

CPLZ,

Yes the same 2-8/20-80 grading system is used for pitchers. The grade is used for many different things including velocity, life, command, secondary pitches, etc.

There can sometimes be slightly different definitions from one club to the next, but here is an example on velocity for RHP…

5/50 - 88-90 mph
6/60 - 91-93 mph
7/70 – 94-96 mph
8/80 – 97+

Note: A pitcher can have a fastball that grades out higher or lower overall than the velocity grades out. For example, a MLB average velocity fastball can grade out higher than 5 or 50 because of higher grades given for life and command. At the same time a 7 velocity can grade out lower overall because of lower grades given for the other things.

This is why a 92 mph fastball with good movement and command can grade out higher than a 94 mph straight fastball.

PG,
I have a question for you due only to my curiousity. What do you think the scale looks like for a LHP? As in, is 5/50 lower than 88-90MPH? If so, could you, as you did in your last post, post some rough estimites.

Thanks a lot.

Andrew,

Just drop one or two MPH from the RHP numbers.