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Quiet Period starts Nov 10th....

G GWTW62100+ posts
So D1 and D2 Coaches are not allowed to watch/evaluate players at showcases and/or camps that are NOT being held at their school from Nov 10th 2011 thru Feb 29 2012...? Is that correct? Had a Dad going on and on about all the coaches that were going to be at a particular showcase this weekend (Nov 11th)
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P Play2win10+ posts
Nov 7-Nov 10 Dead Period

Nov 11 2011- Feb 29 2012 Quite Period ( with exception in Jan 5-9 2012)

Quiet period is a time when the college may not have any in-person talk with the prospective student-athlete or the parents off the college’s campus. The coach may not watch the prospect play or practice.The prospective student-athlete can visit college campuses during this time and a coach may write or telephone.
F 3FingeredGlove1,000+ posts
The D1 and D2 rules are about the same with respect to the quiet period. However, camps are not subject to the recruiting calendar, and an outside coach may be employed by a camp during the quiet period. Obviously he will be in a position to evaluate players, but by rule an outside coach can't recruit, and is specifically prohibited in D1 from making verbal or written offers. See 13.12.1.5 (D1) and 13.12.1.3 (D5).

Regarding a showcase as opposed to a camp, there is another factor to consider. Some coaches don't follow the rules. For example, D1 colleges may not "workout" or give tryouts to prospective players. That's the rule, but it happens a lot, at least in baseball. And nobody that is involved is likely to "tell"; the tryout has benefit to all of the participants.

Coaches may not email players before Sept 1 of the junior year. Yet some players do get early emails. Very few players are offended by this, even if it is a school that they have no interest in.

So there may well be some coaches at a showcase held during a quiet period.
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F 3FingeredGlove1,000+ posts
It's OK to send coaches video anytime, or to email them or to text them, or to approach them in person anytime. These rules apply to coaches, not to players. The onus is on them to handle the interaction appropriately.

If the video has been sent by the athlete himself, the coach may watch it anytime and anywhere. If it has been provided by a recruiting service, he needs to watch it on campus during the quiet period. 13.1.7.21
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P Play2win10+ posts
These rules are not for players, they are for leveling the recruiting playing field so they are for the coaches to follow, the schools feel the pain of violations not the players...

The Rules are pretty straight forward, but there are plenty of ways to read them, which is done.


NCAA Division I Baseball Recruiting Calendar
August 1, 2011 through July 31, 2012

(See NCAA Division I Bylaw 13.17.1 for baseball calendar formula)

The dates in this calendar reflect the application of Division I Bylaw 13.17.1 at the time of publication of this manual but are subject to change per Constitution 5.2.3.1 or if certain dates

(e.g., National Letter of Intent signing dates) are altered.

(a) August 1-31, 2011: Contact Period

(b) September 1-8, 2011: Quiet Period

(c) September 9 through November 6, 2011: Contact Period

(d) November 7-10, 2011: Dead Period

(e) November 11, 2011, through February 29, 2012, [except for (1) below]: Quiet Period

(1) January 5 (12:01 a.m.) - 9, 2012, (12:01 a.m.)*: Dead Period

(f) March 1 through July 31, 2012, [except for (1) below]: Contact Period

(1) April 9-12, 2012: Dead Period

*Dates are based on the American Baseball Coaches Association Convention. January 5-8, 2012, registration and convention dates.

The National Collegiate Athletic Association May 27, 2011 SC:dks

Contact occurs any time a coach has any face-to-face contact with a prospective student-athlete or the prospect’s parents off the college’s campus and says more than hello. A contact also occurs if a coach has any contact with the prospective student-athlete or his or her parents at the prospective student-athlete’s high school or any location where the
prospect is engaging in competition or practice.

Evaluation is an activity by a coach to evaluate a prospective student-athlete’s academic or athletics ability. This would include visiting the prospective student-athlete’s high school or watching the prospect practice or compete.
MTHMTH10,000+ posts
Haven't kept up with this since son went to college, but as I recall it all depends on how they set it up. I think they can get away with it if they are truly teaching skills, as opposed to running a pro-style workout/showcase. And they certainly can't call it a showcase. As I recall there was a big controversy a few years ago involving a quiet period showcase/camp in NC. I think a lot of D1 coaches shy away from these quiet period deals because of concerns about the rules. Which raises the question, are they really worth going to?

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Originally posted by Shelby:
Son has been invited to a College Coaches Skills Camp, per request of different Coaches, to be held during the quiet period at a High School. All school divisions to be in attendance. Recently received letters from a D1 & D2 school, asking him to try to attend & fill out school questionaires. The Baseball organization holding the camp, lists the schools & the Coaches whom are to attend.

Is this allowed then. We plan to register for this one, because of some of the schools listed. Some that have recently viewed his BeRecruited profile & bookmarked him. Thanks.
C chefmike77775,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Play2win:
These rules are not for players, they are for leveling the recruiting playing field so they are for the coaches to follow, the schools feel the pain of violations not the players...

The Rules are pretty straight forward, but there are plenty of ways to read them, which is done.


NCAA Division I Baseball Recruiting Calendar
August 1, 2011 through July 31, 2012

(See NCAA Division I Bylaw 13.17.1 for baseball calendar formula)

The dates in this calendar reflect the application of Division I Bylaw 13.17.1 at the time of publication of this manual but are subject to change per Constitution 5.2.3.1 or if certain dates

(e.g., National Letter of Intent signing dates) are altered.

(a) August 1-31, 2011: Contact Period

(b) September 1-8, 2011: Quiet Period

(c) September 9 through November 6, 2011: Contact Period

(d) November 7-10, 2011: Dead Period

(e) November 11, 2011, through February 29, 2012, [except for (1) below]: Quiet Period

(1) January 5 (12:01 a.m.) - 9, 2012, (12:01 a.m.)*: Dead Period

(f) March 1 through July 31, 2012, [except for (1) below]: Contact Period

(1) April 9-12, 2012: Dead Period

*Dates are based on the American Baseball Coaches Association Convention. January 5-8, 2012, registration and convention dates.

The National Collegiate Athletic Association May 27, 2011 SC:dks

Contact occurs any time a coach has any face-to-face contact with a prospective student-athlete or the prospect’s parents off the college’s campus and says more than hello. A contact also occurs if a coach has any contact with the prospective student-athlete or his or her parents at the prospective student-athlete’s high school or any location where the
prospect is engaging in competition or practice.

Evaluation is an activity by a coach to evaluate a prospective student-athlete’s academic or athletics ability. This would include visiting the prospective student-athlete’s high school or watching the prospect practice or compete.


Being a newbie to this recruiting process, i have what is probably a dumb question. I understand the need for a contact versus "non contact" time. but why dead periods and quiet periods. I am assuming teh dead periods are when the coach can have NO contact?
fillsfanfillsfan1,000+ posts
Just about every baseball academy in my area has some sort of college coaches camp during the winter. Most are attended by many D1 and D2 coaches.

These are called camps, the coaches are paid, and give instruction to all players in attendance. But, you can bet your *** they are looking for and evaluating talent. I know of players that were recruited from these camps.

I think they are a win-win for the players and coaches. Players can be seen and evaluated locally and recruiters get another opportunity to see players. This must be ok with the NCAA because there is nothing hidden. The schools names and logos are front and center in the camp advertisements.

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