Recruiting is a joke

Lie down on the coach and tell us your problem.

Wow!! I know basebgall players that have been "chased down the street" and I know football players that have to beg, jump through hoops and sen videos.

What you have to do or not have to do is based on your talent level for the most part imo.

Sounds like someone needs to add a little fiber to their diet....just saying

jaggerz,

Please share with us your college baseball recruiting strategy, and experience to date. Possibly you are looking in the wrong places or taking the wrong approach. There are alot of folks on this website with alot of experience on this topic. As is the case with most things in life, you get what you put into it. If you want help ask for it.

jaggerz - I think we can all empathize with your frustration, but it can be hard work in any sport.

Hint: Don't assume just because football and basketball get so much press that its any easier...from friends who have gone through that, it most certainly does not sound any easier at all.

Tell us what irks you specifically. Decent chance there are folks here who can help!

I completely disagree. As a high school baseball coach I am in constant contact with numerous coaches in regards to my players. In fact I have received text messages from coaches and have no idea how they even got my phone number.

There are more scholarships available in football. That's a fact.

But I don't see how bitchin' and moanin' about it helps anything.

Jaggerz:

What is a joke is 11.6 ships. Beyond that its difficult to compare the recruiting exeriences of baseball players never mind trying to compare them with football or basketball players. Given the right combinations of talent, academics and finances a baseball players can have "coaches chasing them down the street".

Here's a recruiting story i heard from an asst. JUCO coach this summer.

Player has a 15 on his ACT might not graduated high school but if he does the JUCO is offering him a spot on the team.

Lefty, 83-84 can also play OF and 1st... not great at anything but good at these spots. Most players on his summer team are better

BUT

Parents are very low income, JUCO can get him for free, government is paying for it. So if he flunks out, who cares, they have no athletic money on him.

While other players with better grades are not given the opportunity.

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Originally posted by Midlo Dad:
There are more scholarships available in football. That's a fact.

But I don't see how bitchin' and moanin' about it helps anything.

I agree with the above.

jaggerz,
I think that most that do not get results from recruiting is because they didn't do what needs to be done. Ask most parents here and they will tell you it is a very hard task to accomplish, but done correctly, even the ones who are not top prospects get great opportunities.

I remember one year when son was at Clemson, there was a story on the kicker, who was making a positive impact on the season. He was not recruited for football and was only a half scolly player, played another sport which covered half.

There are all types of scenerios for all types of scholarships.

Make sure that you are targeting the appropriate programs/coaches for your skill level and academics.

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Originally posted by bacdorslider:
Here's a recruiting story i heard from an asst. JUCO coach this summer.

Player has a 15 on his ACT might not graduated high school but if he does the JUCO is offering him a spot on the team.

Lefty, 83-84 can also play OF and 1st... not great at anything but good at these spots. Most players on his summer team are better

BUT

Parents are very low income, JUCO can get him for free, government is paying for it. So if he flunks out, who cares, they have no athletic money on him.

While other players with better grades are not given the opportunity.

let me clarify, i was upset with the coach not the player

And you were upset why?

My suggestion would be that you focus on what you can control, and NEVER succumb to jealousy about what goes on with other people.

For one thing, you do NOT know all the facts of the other guys's situation. If you knew the whole story, maybe you wouldn't want to walk in his shoes at all. Or, maybe there's a reason he got the nod when your son didn't.

Or maybe it's because you have a bad attitude.

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Originally posted by bacdorslider:
Here's a recruiting story i heard from an asst. JUCO coach this summer.

Player has a 15 on his ACT might not graduated high school but if he does the JUCO is offering him a spot on the team.

Lefty, 83-84 can also play OF and 1st... not great at anything but good at these spots. Most players on his summer team are better

BUT

Parents are very low income, JUCO can get him for free, government is paying for it. So if he flunks out, who cares, they have no athletic money on him.

While other players with better grades are not given the opportunity.

This one is easy: Coaches want the best players. The better the player, the lower the grades can be. The worse the player, the better the grades must be -- until, of course, the player, smart though he may be, simply is not good enough.

The best combination of course, is a great player with top grades. Very, very tough to find -- but not impossible. The impossible situation is a player who is not very good and who has poor grades. And, too often, we see the sad situation: a very good player whose grades are so poor that he cannot get any opportunity at all.

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Originally posted by Midlo Dad:
And you were upset why?

My suggestion would be that you focus on what you can control, and NEVER succumb to jealousy about what goes on with other people.

For one thing, you do NOT know all the facts of the other guys's situation. If you knew the whole story, maybe you wouldn't want to walk in his shoes at all. Or, maybe there's a reason he got the nod when your son didn't.

Or maybe it's because you have a bad attitude.

Not jealous, sorry if came off that way. had nothing to do with my son.

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Originally posted by jemaz:

quote:

Originally posted by bacdorslider:
Here's a recruiting story i heard from an asst. JUCO coach this summer.

Player has a 15 on his ACT might not graduated high school but if he does the JUCO is offering him a spot on the team.

Lefty, 83-84 can also play OF and 1st... not great at anything but good at these spots. Most players on his summer team are better

BUT

Parents are very low income, JUCO can get him for free, government is paying for it. So if he flunks out, who cares, they have no athletic money on him.

While other players with better grades are not given the opportunity.

This one is easy: Coaches want the best players. The better the player, the lower the grades can be. The worse the player, the better the grades must be -- until, of course, the player, smart though he may be, simply is not good enough.

The best combination of course, is a great player with top grades. Very, very tough to find -- but not impossible. The impossible situation is a player who is not very good and who has poor grades. And, too often, we see the sad situation: a very good player whose grades are so poor that he cannot get any opportunity at all.

Agreed.

College coaches are very aggressive going after the players they truly want. Of course, only those who are truly wanted understand this.

If begging becomes nessessary, you're likely going to be disappointed.

Marketing is OK, but you can be the best in the world at marketing... if the talent falls short... if they don't see you play... if they don't hear about you from a reliable source... you are on a wild goose chase.

If they see you and you are what they want, they will definitely let you know. Begging or marketing won't be neccessary. Successful recruiters work extremely hard! Many spend nearly their entire summer on the road.

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Originally posted by PGStaff:
College coaches are very aggressive going after the players they truly want. Of course, only those who are truly wanted understand this.

If begging becomes nessessary, you're likely going to be disappointed.

Marketing is OK, but you can be the best in the world at marketing... if the talent falls short... if they don't see you play... if they don't hear about you from a reliable source... you are on a wild goose chase.

If they see you and you are what they want, they will definitely let you know. Begging or marketing won't be neccessary. Successful recruiters work extremely hard! Many spend nearly their entire summer on the road.

PG - I was all over the place this summer with my 2013. I saw the same coaches at every event. Every time I saw them I thought "who the heck wants to be a recruiting coach" - those guys are always on the road. A few Pac 12 coaches.....never home.

I did find it ironic that I rarely saw some schools......and those are the ones who seem to be struggling.

Sometimes when you don't see a program's coaches, it's because they simply have no budget to work with. This is one way that low budgets lead to poor performance on the field.

A lot of programs like that depend on networking with local HS coaches and recruiting from right in their back yards. There are good players to be had that way, though you won't see the likes of a PAC-12 team doing that. You can't compete at that level that way.

With my older son, I can think of at least one Pac10 (now 12) school who was there nearly all of the time...but I never really saw them.

I can even remember a phone call in the middle of the Area Code Games...hadn't seen them at all...but based on the call, it was clear they were there and watching. They also told me they wouldn't be part of the traditional meet-and-greet at the end of the event. And they kept their word on that.

Very good at keeping a low profile.

op sure hashis shorts in a knot---perhaps his player did not get an offer