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Over the years I've read many suggestions in response to college recruiting. There are many experienced posters who have gone through this and at many different levels. Many of the suggestions and advice is excellent.

However, I'm always confused when the topic of marketing one's son is brought up. There are many different situations and I suppose some could involve a little marketing. I know the recruiting services all claim... If you want to be a scholarship player, you need to market yourself. Of course, they mean market yourself through the service they provide. I suppose that is OK, especially if you are NOT a high level prospect.

Here are some things that I believe to be true. Some people might not like this, but what the hay. What is below pertains to those interested in the highest level of college recruiting.

1. GOOD players do not have to market or sell anything; they just need to play in the right places whenever possible. Some might not even have to do that. There are many people who do that marketing for the talented player. When we get a call from someone we trust in California and he says there is a player here that is outstanding... He is doing a better job of marketing that player than the players family could ever do. On the other hand college coaches see thousands of emails and videos each year from parents and players and they are impossible to manage.

2. If we say the player is selling something, then we have to assume the recruiter is buying something. Player sells, recruiter buys! Players can only truly impress a recruiter into offering based on what the recruiter has seen and wants. So we could say that all marketing efforts should be geared towards getting the recruiter to see the player. The major job for all recruiters is to see as many talented players as possible.

3. This is where many get confused. Truth be known, college recruiters are actually the ones involved in marketing and selling. The players they want are nearly always wanted by other colleges. This means that one of the college recruiter’s main jobs is to sell the recruit on going to the recruiters college. The player being recruited does very little other than be wanted. More often than not, any marketing efforts made on behalf of the player can be a waste of time. The recruiter is the one trying to market/sell his college to the player he is trying to recruit.

4. Most college recruiters work very hard and see hundreds if not thousands of players each year. These recruiters know what they are doing. They see more players that they actually would love to have in their program, than they have room for. If they can't get a commitment from a player they want, they simply go to the next player they want. They do not recruit players based on how good a marketing job someone has done. This is not to say they never go to personal websites or look at videos, but most often only when it's a player they are interested in. Some college coaches are bombarded by emails, packets of information, newspaper clippings, telephone calls, etc., No one can recruit that way, they simply do not have the manpower to do things that way. Not when they need to spend so much effort in recruiting the player they really want.

5. Being recruited means exactly that. When the college coach wants to make an offer and sell you on going to his school, you are being recruited by that school. It just doesn't work the other way around. If it did, then the player would be recruiting the college to make the commitment to the player.

The stuff above is not the gospel. There is nothing wrong with trying to gain the interest of college recruiters. Anything that might work is OK. I just wanted to add some realistic views into the topic. There have been many who have worked hard and spent much time and money marketing their player to a high level college program only to see nothing in return, except maybe a camp invite. You can be the best, most professional salesman on earth and see some other talented kid that did nothing but play the game get all the offers.

Finally, I do think if the goal is a smaller academic college, marketing can be a more effective approach. Just don't plan on a high level DI recruiter who travels all over during the summer and fall seeing potential student athletes to get excited about your players information on his email or laying on his desk. And don't expect any valuable information if you happen to get him on the phone, unless he wants you!

I've heard the stories... We talked to the UCLA coaches, they want his schedule. In most cases (not signaling out UCLA, could be any high level program) they just want to free up the phone. In many cases, they have no interest at all, yet next thing you know the word is out, sometimes this has been called being "heavily" recruited. We have talked to college coaches and mentioned what we heard and the college coaches have said things like... "No, we are not recruiting him" or even, "We don't know who that is, who is he?" Guess they forgot about the phone call or email.

Now that I think about all this, not sure why I brought it up as I’m not sure it will help anyone. Still a big believer in people doing what they think is right. Maybe I'm talking more on behalf of the college recruiter’s view in some ways and on the player/parent view in other ways. I think it's fairly well known that most parents are the very worst scouts/evaluators when it comes to their own child. Heck, we know outstanding Major League scouts that are great evaluators except when it involves evaluating their own kid. Marketing material from parents would not carry the most impact.

I apologize if any of this has offended anyone.
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I just read your well thought out and well meaning post on the reality of recruiting........I think you did quite a nice job of presenting the information without insulting anyone which in my opinion is a really difficult task given your experience and knowledge.

They used to refer to me as Mr. Reality at work when someone younger and inexperienced would propose an investigative technique or plan that had no chance of working. I always listened intently and then said, "But the reality of it all is, it sounds good..... but it won't work." Keeping everyone's feet firmly planted on the ground kept us from wasting a lot of time and taxpayer's money.

Perhaps, you might have saved someone the same. Kudos.

Taking a proactive approach in recruiting in my mind isn't selling yourself......it's an honest search for where you belong.
PGStaff

I won't begin to tell you about your business, you see more kids than I ever will. However, that being said, I have come to the conclusion that for many the cost of getting your kids on the teams that are seen (team cost, travel, tuition, whatever) can and does limit many.

We are in Calif; the number of good kids versus schools is completely out of wack. The cost of exposing your kid to schools beyond 300 miles becomes cost prohibitive to many (it did for us).

I wish there was a way to balance the cost of exposure with the hoped or expected results. It is not a perfect world.
I agree that PG has done a good job in explaining the realities in a very sensitive way that would not be insulting.

Agreed that taking proactive approach always is helpful, and definetly one needs to seek out and investigate where they best belong.

I don't understand some stuff, like parents already setting up websites for their players even before they have played one HS game. Seriously, most players are not actively recruited until their junior year or into their senior summer. Noticed I said most and in bold.

#5 is something to seriously keep in mind, coaches recruit players, not the other way around.

When son was in HS if someone asked for his schedule it was sent. No wondering what the hidden meaning might be, or would they make an offer, or should we call to confirm them coming, yada yada.
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ILVBB

I know what you mean. But there are many ways to get the job done. If a player is talented enough there are many opportunities available. Maybe they wouldn't have the same capabilities to do things, but there are lots of people who will help talented players.

Actually I feel the unfortunate ones are the borderline potential college players that are limited in what they can afford. But most of what I tried to describe involved the higher level players.

I also think there are other parts of the country that players have almost no chance. At least in California you are likely to get seen by someone who can and might help. Finding that person who has the credibility and contacts should be the goal. Then he needs to see the player and think he has something special to offer. Just like the college recruiter would need to see the same thing. If the person wants money to help, that can create a problem and would give him the wrong motive for helping.

Scouts are often the person that can help that I'm referring to above.
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PGStaff,

Nothing you've said offended or caused me to disagree. I think we get caught up in the word "marketing" and it can mean different things to different people. My definition as it pertains to a college baseball recruit really means exposure, promotion and communication to a potential college. So, to take marketing a step further the player & recruiter need to be at the right place at the right time (bringing buyers and sellers together is marketing) to discuss goods or services. The player or recruiter needs to communicate his interest to the other, and there needs to be a common interest to see it through to a transaction (college enrollment). This is marketing plain and simple, but applied to college recruiting. Perfect Game plays a meaningful marketing role in facilitating the arena of buyers and sellers as well. Everybody is marketing in this process.

I agree the recruiters are more sellers than anyone. I would also argue that some recruiters (just like recruits) don't have to market or sell anything. There are some programs and coaches that speak for themselves.
Pg,

I always repsect your opinion on baseball subjects.

The question I would have is regarding number 4. Do you really think the college recruiters go out to see hundreds or thousands of plyers each year?

I would agree if they just show up at the area code tryouts and a few showcasese where they see 10 swings and 10 groundballs flyballs whateever. How ever in Illinois it seems like they spend a lot of time reading PBR and not much time watching the players at games.It really does not seem like they put that much effort into the process.
Very well said Mr. PG Staff. It's always a good idea to be pro-active but there will be a point where academic and athletic talent / make up / needs of the program will affect the recruting process and hopefully all the foundation built between the recruit and recruiter will come into fruition. For most players like what TPM has said, it will after July 1st after your Junior year where things may or may not fall into place. Just keep working hard and play the game the right way and hopefully one or several coaches take notice and help you find the right fit. It will be an interesting Summer for RR23JR and us in his journey.
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The question I would have is regarding number 4. Do you really think the college recruiters go out to see hundreds or thousands of plyers each year?


Yes, if we are talking about the highest level. I would say thousands of players. I understand what you mean about the 10 swings , field some groundballs, etc. But the WWBA tournaments with hundreds of teams will draw hundreds of college coaches. These teams all play 6 or more games during the week. Those top programs have very hard working recruiters who see as much talent as they can. Their summers are full and we see them again in Jupiter each October.

I can't speak for all coaches everywhere. The big winners work very hard.
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Originally posted by fenwaysouth:
I agree the recruiters are more sellers than anyone. I would also argue that some recruiters (just like recruits) don't have to market or sell anything. There are some programs and coaches that speak for themselves.


Ask any coach who is recruiting a player who every other school in that conference (or other conferences) is recruiting if he doesn't have to sell or market his program.
What's inferred but not said is that the recruiting services are a racket that prey on parents and kids dreams. This is largely true IMO.

The D1 programs are out hustling for prospects so just go where they go and do your best. It's that simple. Now if your goal is high academic D3 and you want to leverage baseball to help your son get in the front door, go to those select camps and do your best again.

PG is right and I'll add that recruiting services etc are just a racket.
One reason PG Staff is right is that most people misunderstand what marketing really is and confuse attention-generating activities with marketing.

At its core, marketing is identifying who your customers should be before they realize it themselves and learning enough about them to place your message in front of them in the right way at the right point in their decision process so they see how you meet their needs/desires for a good value. To do that, you have to know the value of your product and you have to know your customers' needs.

Unless a dad (I know there are a few notable moms at this site, but it's mostly dads) is a baseball insider (college coach, scout, former pro, etc.), he cannot accurately assess his son's value and he is unlikely to be able to ascertain the specific needs of a particular program.

Coaches, on the other hand, can market. They see enough players to assess value accurately, they can talk to players and find out their educational and financial goals/needs, they can usually figure out who they're competing with, and they can tailor their presentation of their program accordingly. Also, they market all the time, so they're a lot better at it than the parents who do it once or twice per lifetime.
PG Staff,

Great take on the subject. I would say parents do not need to market their sons but should try to find someone to help guide them through the process. I would say with being in the right program, "listening" to people who have been through the process and being proactive is the best "marketing" you can do. A call on behalf of a player from a coach or person who colleges/scouts respect will go the farthest. Some parents "market" their sons to the wrong "buyer"
Great post, PGStaff. You've summarized some things that I think a lot of people need to know. Sometimes what we as parents want to happen and may interpret might be very different from what is actually going on.

I'm not as experienced as many on recruiting but I have had two to go through the process. I've found that the only real way for me to know if a college was really interested in my kid was if the college recruiter initiated contact with me, the parent, and then did something to follow-up. But it still didn't necessarily mean that my kid was being recruited. There were times when I thought one of my kids was being recruited but they really weren't. Here is my take -

>Form letter to home = Not being recruited
>Letter to attend their Camp = Not being recruited (but they may have some degree of interest)
>Brief conversation initiated by them after a game = Not being recruited, but a higher degree of interest
>Baseball materials sent to home = Not being recruited, but a moderate degree of interest
>A personal request to fill out their baseball recruit form = Not being recruited, but they have a moderate degree of interest
>Recruiter/Coach attends your high school game and tells someone he is there to see you = Moderate to high level of interest
>Personalized letter to home = High degree of interest, possibly will be recruited
> You receive a 'college team updates' email addressed to you and with your name as a salutation = Not being recruited, but you may at least be on a long list
>A truly personalized email from recruiter = High level of interest, not being recruited
>Recruiter initiates a 5-10 minutes discussion with parents = High level of interest and may being recruited
>Invitation for an official visit = Being recruited
>Offer Letter = Being recruited

My experience may be different from others. Please add your thoughts.
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Originally posted by 2bagger:
...Do you really think the college recruiters go out to see hundreds or thousands of plyers each year? ...


I agree with PG on this. One of our kids verballed to an ACC school. They told him they had seen him play 35 times from fall to summer.

So...one player x 35 games x 15 players per team x 2 teams per game = 1050 players seen just to recruit this one player. Let's just assume they recruit 3 players to get 1 (which is low), you have 3150 players seen. If an average class is 8.75 (35/4 even though it never breaks down this way), that recruiter has now seen 27,562.5 players to get his class of 8.75 kids.
Redbird,
The numbers won't tally quite that high since your team and many of your opponents have other players worthy of major conference interest.

However, PG Staff's estimate that a coach can "see hundreds if not thousands of players each year" can easily be defended.

If a single college recruiter watches 4 games a day during a single week at a major venue like East Cobb, he'll see almost 750 players (7 days x 4 games per day x 2 teams per game x 12 or 13 players per team who see action in each game). That's just one week. In this context, "hundreds if not thousands of players each year" looks like a modest characterization.
I have some strong opinions about this subject. After years of hearing stories I've decided to be bold enough to speak my mind. Besides, if I don't speak my mind now, I might forget it by tomorrow.

Regarding the number of players a top level college recruiter might see...

In addition to the big summer tournaments, most all the major DIs attend the major showcase type events. These events give recruiters 60 yd times, H-1 times, pop times, workout results including fielding, throwing and BP. This is followed by games where talented players compete with and against each other.

A typical major DI college will be present at the following events.

PG National
Tournament of Stars
East Coast Pro
Area Codes

Just these events alone will have close to a thousand very talented players. And these are not the only events these same recruiters attend. There are regional events that get heavily scouted.

At the big tournaments many of the top colleges will have two coaches attend. They would have more if it were allowed to have more than two. Our scouts who are stationed at a single field will see and take notes on around 100-150 players every day for 6 or 7 days. Many of these college coaches attend for 2 or 3 weeks (!6U-17U-18U). So just in Georgia during July they will see well over a thousand players. They will see another thousand at showcase events. They will easily see more than another thousand players at the WWBA Underclass and WWBA Championship in the fall.

And this doesn't include the fact that a college could have coaches looking at players at three different events on the same day.

All the above doesn't include other tournaments and showcases that these college recruiters attend. It doesn't include the camps they run. There are college recruiters who are seldom home from June through August.

Obviously all colleges don't spend this much or work this hard. However, if you look at the top 100-150 programs they will all see well over a thousand players every year. I would agree with those who say that number is very conservative.

The other thing to consider…

Their are certain summer/fall teams that draw more interest from these college coaches. Risking debate, I would say that the players on these teams are seen by more than a thousand scouts, college coaches, agents, etc., during the summer and fall. Sometimes 100-200, or even more, at one game.

Anyway, even if the figures are incorrect it should be obvious that the top colleges are seeing a very large number of players. A very large number of the best players! They will see more than a hundred players they would really want to recruit if they could. Now they get hundreds/thousands of emails, phone call, video or schedule from someone they have never seen. If you put yourself in their shoes how would you handle this?

Once again, these recruiters are on the road most of the summer. They are on the road some of the fall as well as coaching their team. In the winter they can't be on the road, but sometimes they hold camps. They start team practice at the first of the year. In the spring they are dominated with the season and will only go see a player who is usually well recognized.

Not to open up a can of worms. I've never been a fan of recruiting services when the goal is to play at a high level. Of course, some are better than others. The best thing a recruiting service can do is tell you to go get seen and evaluated. It has always bothered me when I hear claims of being "responsible" for securing million of dollars in scholarship money. Almost as if the player’s ability has nothing to do with it.

Truth is you can't help a bad player without lying. You either have to lie to the player or lie to the college. If you get caught lying to the college about one player, you can't help the next player with that college.

The best players do not need recruiting help. I'm guessing that more than 99% of all scholarship dollars have nothing to do with a recruiting service. Does anyone really believe that the very top programs use a recruiting service to find players? I would think the best recruiting services would need a player evaluation and honestly tell the player what they can do to help him. If the player wants DI and the evaluation says DIII, do you take him as a client? All recruiting services are not bad, but most of them are IMO.

I think the video based sites are OK in some cases. Obviously there's nothing to lose when it's free. Here is what we most often hear from college recruiters regarding how they use video... The recruiter has seen a player he likes and then he has the head coach see that player’s video.

Bottom line... You’re the recruiter, how are you going to recruit players that you want? What will get you interested in a player you have never seen?

In addition to seeing thousand or more players which include hundreds you like, you have good contacts, that you trust, that will let you know if a real good player is around.

I'm not saying the recruiting services, personal websites or marketing campaigns will never work. Anything is possible. Just don't expect miracles in the way of results.
PGStaff - I agree with all of that. All of it. It is a good description of what we experienced...twice.

The one thing I will add is to try and recognize what type of HS program your son plays in. Our older son played in a weak one...we had to do more in terms of travel/showcases to get him seen and evaluated. Our younger son plays in a program that is one of the best around with a coach who is one of the best around. We didn't have to do as much (if anything) outside of HS other than give him opportunities to get better. Scouts and college coaches are regularly at our HS games each and every year.

The key is to be seen, whether that be in HS, summer travel ball or showcases, and then let the evaluations fall where they may. As that evolves, follow the trail put in front of you.
Great players in CA are usually going to get seen.

Good players who might stand out elsewhere and get a lot of attention from lower tier D1's or D2's elsewhere can get lost. What happens when you are the #5 pitcher on a staff where the 1 thru 3 were drafted in an early round or signed at well above slot (2,2,25)and #4 has been very successful at the D1 level? That's an extreme but factual example from one of the schools in our HS league that finished in the middle of the pack the year they had all of those pitchers. The situation can be even worse for a position player if the HS coach doesn't have connections or make an effort to "market" the players.

The players end up needing to "market" themselves by getting exposure in other ways. That #5 pitcher who only threw 11 innings as a senior mostly not in league did get himself exposure in a showcase and was drafted in the later rounds. He got significantly more innings in rookie ball.

Another player from our league played JV as a junior so he didn't get any exposure that way, but he had some connections via a pitching instructor who had contacts at a local D1 and attended a small local showcase. He signed with the D1 between his junior and senior years. On the other hand I'd rate him as a great, not a good so he would've been seen regardless at some point.

Bottom line I agree with PG's assessment but I also agree with ILVBB that while kids who can stand out in CA will get a ton of exposure, some very good players in CA do not get exposure outside the state.

My experience is that showcases are a good start and that the best way to market a player is through performing well in the big WWBA tournaments. Unfortunately, that isn't an option for every player.
justbaseball,
Agreed, but I watched a CA HS game a few years back where Jason Stoffel was going against Brett Hunter. There may have been scouts there, you never know, but I didn't see a single radar gun that day.

There are a couple programs in our league that get attention from the scouts year in and year out and others that don't get the attention. It doesn't always correlate that well with the talent or with wins and losses. Obviously the teams with the early round kids get the attention regardless.
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Originally posted by Swampboy:
Redbird,
The numbers won't tally quite that high since your team and many of your opponents have other players worthy of major conference interest...


I agree that my calcs are not totally accurate but I was assuming he wasn't just watching my team's game. So as not to factor in seeing the same team twice, I simply used 2 teams when, in fact, it should be even higher. I didn't include the coach's 2-3 weeks in Marietta as well as trips to and individual showcases where they can see 200+ players at a time. I figured it would all wash out.
justbaseball,

I'm glad you touched on that. That is what I meant when writing this...

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In addition to seeing thousand or more players which include hundreds you like, you have good contacts, that you trust, that will let you know if a real good player is around.


Sometimes high school coaches are disrespected here. Maybe some deserve this lack of respect. But there are many others who are among those trusted contacts that college coaches pay attention to.

I know your son's coach is one of these trusted contacts. There are several others. Unless the coach has never had a DI player, he has some knowledge about where his players fit. The recruiter understands that this coach knows his players capabilities because he has coached other high level players.

Sometimes these coaches that are respected will pass along information to recruiters about top opposing players they've seen.

One thing I would recommend to every parent or talented player without this kind of coach... Find someone in your area who is respected and try to get with him. These people exist all over the place and they can really help. Some actually enjoy helping a talented young player.

Be careful though, because some of those claiming to be well respected are not well respected at all. Maybe a little research would be in order.

Many times this person is not involved in any baseball business. Often there is no cost involved. This gives the player that very important contact. That, Who You Know, advantage.

Others among a recruiters trusted contacts are sometimes summer and fall coaches, scouts, agents, and even former players. Many even consider us a trusted source. Smile
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Just thought I should add this as it hasn't been brought up.

If my son would have had IVY League type academic accomplishments. I'd have no problem "marketing" that.

When the grades and test scores are off the chart, everyone perks up a little. This is a big advantage, of course.

In this case marketing to the high end academic colleges seems like a good idea to me. Especially if the fit is the smaller colleges that don't have a large recruiting budget.

Also, there are major DI schools that might see thousands of players, but a small fraction of those players they see qualify to be recruited.

A few examples are Stanford, Vanderbilt and Duke. There are many others.
I am enjoying this thread a lot it is very thought provoking.

I'm going to play devils advocate from the California perspective...

I live in NH where we might have 5 to 10 kids in the whole state play DI ball and every few years you might get one drafted highish.

If you are smart and good enough to get yourself onto a strong CDP like NE Baseball, the Roughnecks or the WY Clippers out of NY and are off to play at the WWBA's in GA for two weeks in July, how the heck is a recruiter going to know who you are or if he should check you out? In that case where you are an unknown from NH wouldn't it behoove you to contact the recruiters at schools you might be interested in? Or do you just go out and play and assume that there will recruiters at your games that will notice you. If you're a pitcher you might only be playing in 4 or 5 games over those 2 weeks...isn't it a c r a p shoot to hope that some SEC school or ACC school will be at your game, especially if some top prospect is pitching 3 fields over from yours?

Are you hoping you do well the first game and the recruiters who did see you talk you up to others? Does PG give out stats almost real time of the kids who played that day so a recruiter from a DI sees it and says hey I might need to go check out that "6' 3" lefty from NH who hit 88 on the radar gun" the next game he pitches.

Wouldn't that be the kid who needs to at least market himself a bit to the schools he is interested in as he is under the radar up in NH?

What do good players from small states do??
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Red Sox you make a good point. Doing some ground work and identifying target schools and letting them know your schedule is a very good idea.

Fwiw thats the approach we took and whether it was a coincidence or not, the school where he's at is one that we targeted. The point is letting them know your schedule so they can see with their own eyes vs video, stats et al is the preferred way IMO.

Ps. There is a freshman pitcher from NH on sons team doing a real nice job this year.
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This is really good topic with tons of great info.

A recruiting success story here is IMO, Jeff Kremer (Rob's player). From Oregon, he's at Duke (NC). Nhmonty's (NH) plays at UMD (Maryland). The had to have been seen somewhere. They both had to have had the grades to get into these programs as well.

When my son played in Jupiter fall of his junior year, I do beleive that Kevin O'Sullivan came over to watch a player on the other team. I do not beleive he came specifically to see son. That was the beginning of a great relationship! I am sure that PG has lots of stories regarding coaches coming to watch players and being impressed with some they didn't intentionally intend to come to see. I'll bet Smile some are from rating and ranking as well, or even a scout's interest.

Some of this has to do with some may call "marketing". If my son is interested in a program, and the program and the academics fit what he is looking for and capable of, then by all means, we would make ourselves known, either by finding out where THOSE coaches go watch players or attending their camp.

Do you have to go to play in Jupiter? Do you have to go to AC? Do you have to attend the Stanford Camp? Not necessarily, but you do have to do a little bit more than sit and wait for someone to come knocking at your door, no matter where you live. JMO.

Senior summer in HS, DK was lucky enough to play on a travel team where the coaches knew lots and lots of college coaches, all types of programs, they helped to provide information to the coaches and because of them, son had some good options end of senior summer. And it wasn't all about baseball either, most coaches of really big programs want more info (from people who know the player) than just how well you play.

Th opportunities available to players is ten fold than what it was when son was in HS. You just got to do what you need to do, that makes sense.

redsox8191,
What about an MLB tryout? If it goes well, you can use those scouts as reference to send to coaches, and they are FREE.
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I know we are involved in a business, but people that can't afford certain things need to be made aware of what they can or might do.

TPM, mentioned MLB tryouts and that is one very good way to get your name circulating. If you are exceptionally talented things start to happen.

There are teams put together by MLB organizations that play in WWBA Jupiter each October. These teams are usually loaded with talent and there is no player fee in some cases.

There are high caliber summer and fall teams that are completely sponsored and don't cost a player fee.

USA Baseball events (Like the TOS) are another way to go, but you have to be sure they are truley sponsored by USA Baseball. Many copy cats out there.

MLB Scouting Bureau also holds events.

And again, locating those people in your area that are well respected and have contacts is a good start.

East Coast Pro and Area Codes don't charge players, but you need to be invited and be able to get there.

Yes, you have to have a lot of talent to receive invitations to some of these things. You have to be identified as someone with potential. If no one knows you, things are much harder.

This identification process can, and often does, start at something like a MLB tryout held by MLB organizations.
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This thread is a great example of why many of us say that if you read the information provided here and then go out and do it, you don't need a recruiting service, website promotion, or any of the other costly, marketing-related "opportunities" out there.

...and to the question that went: "Do you really think the college recruiters go out to see hundreds or thousands of players each year?"

If you don't think so, just ask the wife of a recruiter; the one whose husband is travelling somewhere every free moment during the active recruiting period. Just make certain when you ask it that you're prepared for the emotion she puts into her response.

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