Redshirt question

Redshirting has nothing to do with not receiving scholarship money.
The benefit of redshirting a player for the coach is that it frees up more of the 11.7 percentage(for div 1) on the roster. If a coach has 35 on his roster, 5 are redshirted he only has to divide the 11.7 among 30 9if he fully funds). Money has nothing to do with it, that comes from his budget.
For example, if in the fall he has actually given out percentages that add to 16, he has to redshirt some players to be in compliance for the spring by NCAA rules (the third game of the season I do beleive).

I think cutting players is a poor excuse for not being able to budget the allowed NCAA percentage.

So in a perfect world you could redshirt your first year and concentrate on your schooling and get stronger. Go pro after your Jr. yr of eligibility and be paid for 4 yrs of schooling?

That's about it, but it's not always perfect.

Remember, the bargaining chip for any type of bonus (if you go pro and if you want some) is school. A redshirted junior (academic senior) has little school left to negotiate. JMO.

Thanks, that makes sense. If you did'nt graduate in 4 yrs could the school give you scholarship money for the fifth yr?

I believe you are still draft eligible after your 3rd year of school although you have only played 2 plus 1 red shirt...

Coach Merc, you have a PM. Thanks.

I think all the above is correct for athletic scholarships. However, if you have a son that is on an academic scholarship you must check the fine print. My son is sligible to receive a full academic ride from a local school that offers this to the class valedictorian from the five West Virginia counties that surround the school. HOWEVER, the scholarship specifically says FOR FOUR YEARS ONLY.

Lesson learned here. When you talk about red shirting with the coach and you have that type of scholarship opportunity, make certain you know what you are doing if he wants to red shirt his first year say or you might get stuck with the tab [minus his athletic scholarship] his fifth year. Bottom one here is to know what the guidelines are for the academic scholarship your son might be getting that red shirting might effect.

TW344

For student athlete eligibility there are different rules. The five year rule states you have 5 years to complete four seasons in a sport. The clock begins the day you first enroll FULL TIME or compete at any college.

Redshirt is the best way of achieving this. However, do note, there are other rules, 24 hour rule, the 75/25 rule, the 12 hour rule, 25-50-75% rule and the 90/95% rule, which is beginning your fifth sememster (junior year) you must have met 90% of the GPA required for graduation in your degree. There are also rules for "banked credit hours". Lot of rules in the NCAA. If some rules are not met, one can go to summer school, which essentially eats up scholarship money. So it MAY be possible that by fifth year there is no money available. But then there is the 5th year Grant -In-Aid which comes into play for a student athlete who has exhausted his/her eligibility but does not have the number of hours to graduate. They may be able to apply for scholarship aid. There are a whole bunch of rules for this, most of the time requires work assigned and carry a normal load. I do beleive you are NOT eligible to play, and you are not eligible if you have signed a pro contract or employed an agent.
Of course, the above refers to athletic aid, not any other aid available as TW suggests.
A player is eligible for the draft by age 21 or his junior year.

Choosing a school should not be planned around the possibility of redshirting, but the possibility of playing. JMO.

I also do beleive, most coaches most likely don't want to have pay for many players for 5 years, just doesn't fit into their budget. In what I have seen, most players who have not made an impact by certain years, move on. That is why you do not see many seniors on rosters. The coach doesn't have to live up to his part of the bargain after 4 years. JMO.

Good question to ask during the recruiting period.

Each coach / program does things differently

My son was a red shirt frosh and taken care for all 5 years--in fact my sons scholarship was increased at the end of his frosh first semester


I do not think there is a general rule here

Just a quick note:

Eligibility, not school year, will determine bonus money.

I have seen this happen more than once.

Any real student-athlete will begin graduate work if the bonus money isn't there, especially in a top program where they can still be BMOC as opposed to cannon fodder for $1K and a plane ticket!

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However, do note, there are other rules, 24 hour rule, the 75/25 rule, the 12 hour rule, 25-50-75% rule and the 90/95% rule, which is beginning your fifth sememster (junior year) you must have met 90% of the GPA required for graduation in your degree. There are also rules for "banked credit hours". Lot of rules in the NCAA. If some rules are not met, one can go to summer school, which essentially eats up scholarship money.

The above scenarios and requirements validate the need for a good athletic academic advisor at the school to help guide your son thru the various criteria that need to be met. I know my son feels his athletic academic advisor has been an invaluable resource in navigating thru course scheduling to meet all the academic requirements . Redshirts need that advisement even MORE to help maximize their playing eligibility.

sox


By definition what is "bonus money" ?