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Respect..from your teammates

infielddadinfielddad10,000+ posts
Listening to the post game comments, I cannot help but be almost tearful listening to the admiration and respect for Edgar Renteria.
From his manager, to every teammate, they are unbelievable in describing Edgar Renteria as a teammate, as a leader, as an inspiration, as a rock.
Certainly not their best player this year until the playoffs. Playing with a torn left bicep but apparently lead a meeting in Chicago in August that left everyone in tears.
I love the dynamic of team sports, especially baseball as a team sport.
When a baseball team has a leader who is respected by his teammates, it is amazing the results which are possible..at every level.
Is there anything better than "earning" the respect of your teammates and leading teammates to places they didn't see for themselves?

'You don't have to be a great player to play in the major leagues, you've got to be a good one every day.'

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I was taken a back by how humble Edgar seems to be. He has come up with some of the greatest hits in World Series history and all he could do was thank his teammates and organization. He is the main financial sponser of the winter league my son plays in in Columbia and I can assure people, all of Columbia is proud of him today.
infielddadinfielddad10,000+ posts
While it is not completely confirmed, many close to the Giants are saying Renteria nearly decided on retirement during a series in Colorado in July. Felt he could not perform.
Bochy apparently sat with him. No retirement.
I didn't realize this until this morning.
Renteria did not start the first 5 games of the playoffs. Despite that, he made an impression. He worked with Cody Ross on getting his foot down in his AB's. Before that, Ross was struggling.
Worked for Ross!
Many are saying he will be a manager soon. Great leader, great knowledge of the game and a great teacher of the game.
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T Tooldforthis100+ posts
Edgar was great as a team leader and if he retires, someone needs to put him on their staff. San Francisco is known for having retired players stay as part of the "family" even if they went on to play for another team. There is always retired players at most of the games.

Don't forget about Barry Zito, even though he was not on the roster, he worked out every day with the team and threw BP for the hitters and was one of the first to meet players as they can in from the field or got a good hit.
birdman14birdman141,000+ posts
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Originally posted by Tooldforthis:
Edgar was great as a team leader and if he retires, someone needs to put him on their staff. San Francisco is known for having retired players stay as part of the "family" even if they went on to play for another team. There is always retired players at most of the games.

Don't forget about Barry Zito, even though he was not on the roster, he worked out every day with the team and threw BP for the hitters and was one of the first to meet players as they can in from the field or got a good hit.


Nothing for nothing, but that's one expensive cheerleader and BP guy.
Three BaggerThree Bagger1,000+ posts
To me the Giants remind me of the formula that worked in Atlanta for many years with the great young pitching staff, one superstar (Posey-in the making) and several solid players who probably will be there for some time Sanchez, Torres, and a lot of good but cheap players who are interchanged each year by skillful trading or picking up guys on waivers. The Giants have a better closer than Atlanta usually had in those years and that might be the difference in winning World Championships and just getting to the playoffs many times. Some of the key players of this championship run will probably not be back next year so it remains to be seen if Giants management can fill the offensive holes.
infielddadinfielddad10,000+ posts
Three Bagger,
I tend to agree with that assessment,especially the closer, although Wohlers was darn good...for awhile.
The Giant's issues are going forward and they are arbitration and free agency. Cain signed for 4 years and 2 years beyond his arbitration date.
Lincecum is signed for 2 more years I believe, but not beyond free agency.
They will face similar decisions with Posey, Wilson and Baumgardner.
A good friend of ours recently did an interview with Larry Baer. During the interview, the question was posed about signing Posey through both his arbitration and free agency years...about a 6-7 year contract, similar to what the Twins did with Mauer.
We are still waiting for an answer but Larry did provide about a 10 minute response, but never an answer.
infielddadinfielddad10,000+ posts
Agreed.
That is what they did with Cain...$40,000,000 for 4 years. They tried it with Lincecum initially but didn't get it done, because Lincicum's agent seemed to be willing to risk a year by year in arbitration. Heading into the hearing, they resolved things for around $24,000,000 for 2 years, with the major money beginning in 2011. Giant's probably did well.
When each hits free agency, the Giants have the Zito deal as a precedent to work around.
If each of those guys stays healthy, they will be in big demand come free agency, big $$$$,$$$,$$$.$$ demand.
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Three BaggerThree Bagger1,000+ posts
Good points, infielddad. The locking up for shorter contracts leading up to free agency is a rather new phenomenom of the last few years and often seems to work. Most of these contracts are for somewhat smaller, not budget wrecking amounts and as it now seems the primes of players are at a younger age than people used to figure (26-30 as opposed to 28-32), they often cover some of the players best years before overuse and chronic injuries take their toll.

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