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I thought I’d get better response in this section rather than the general discussion section.

As we approach the coming 2006 spring high school season, I’ve been watching the kids preparing in the winter workouts. Since my son is a left-handed pitcher I tend to, of course, watch the pitchers.

My question is: how do recruiters, and the like, evaluate right-handed pitchers, if they do, differently than they do the left-handed pitchers. You always hear that a lefty that can throw strikes in the mid 80s can be a hot prospect, while a righty must be throwing in the 90s to get a solid look. Does it matter how many pitches you have or the control of the ones you have (Right Vs. Left – one of the kids on our high school team says he has 8 pitches).

I heard it discussed on a MLB game one night by the commentators. They had been talking to the head scout and he had told his field guys not to bother calling him if their right handed prospect wasn’t 6 foot plus and throwing mid to upper 90s. Of course the commentators were talking about the guy who was pitching that night wouldn’t even be considered in that environment under those rules.

I also know one right-hander who only pitches from the stretch, age 15, and some have said that that will negatively impact a scout’s impression of him. This kid throws hard with control and good movement for his age, mid 80s, has a good over hand fastball and a side arm pitch than runs in on right-handers, but a poor curve ball. What would you think of this kind of guy? Would you advise him to continue to follow a pitching career or work a little more on his fielding (he is fast, good arm strength and can hit, and he hasn’t hit his growth squirt yet – plays left). The reason I throw this in is that his step dad wants him to focus only on pitching and I think he has more chance as an outfielder (he wants to continue playing both).

I know I’m all over the place in this post, but I’ve coached several of these kids through the years and some still look to me for advice. What I want to be able to say to them is what the typical expectations of those who will be evaluating them. We know each situation is different but I’m sure there are some basics that scouts/recruiters are looking for in the different pitchers.
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College recruiting and professional scouting try to achieve different goals. MLB is looking for players who will perform at the highest levels in 3, 4, or 5 years. College coaches are looking for guys to be successful at their particular level next year or the year after.

Some may disagree mith me but righties throwing in the 90's are not very common. 94 kids topped at 90 or above last month at the largest tournament of the year on the east coast. There are plenty of successful righties pitching in the eighties in college, but that's less common in pro-ball, at any level.

I think your 15 year old RHP/OF would be best served by letting scouts/recruiters determine where he plays best. Half of every college or pro team are pitchers, so I would be hesitant to give up pitching, if he enjoys it and can pitch.
I assume you are talking about 15YOs in both cases. At that age let the guy play both positions and forget the fathers imput. You are the coach and the guy should play were you need him.
The guy pitching from the stretch should work on a full windup. Again it is in his best interest and yours. I see this once in awhile and always wonder why he continues to do this.
Several years ago Sports Ill. had a big article of the Righty/Lefty thying. The front cover had a teams pitching staff including Randy J. All of the pitchers were 6'4" plus. About 15 scouts were interviewed and almost every one said head office had said what you said. Do not bother sending a RHP report unless he is 6'4 plus and throwing mid 90s. LHP mid to high 80s and 6' plus.
I am sure there are exceptions that have occured but that aricle laid it out in plain english. A friend son was drafted in the 10th round and was told if he was taller he would have gone sooner. He demanded and got 7th round money. I have found that a lot of pitchers over state their height by an inch or two because of this issue.
To be honest these things get blown out of proportion every year. So far in the entire country we have seen only 4 or 5 that fit that bill 6-4/mid 90s.

On the other hand in 2002 Clint Everts a 6'1.175 lb RHP who touched 90 was the 4th or 5th pick of the draft. Same year 6'3 RHP Chris Gruler (low 90s) was the 3rd pick of the draft.

In 2003 6'2 RHP Jeff Allison went in the first round. So did 6'2 RHP Chad Billingsley.

In 2004 RHP Mark Rogers 6'2 was the first HS pitcher picked. 6'1 RHP Chris Lambert also was picked in the 1st round.

Last year 6'2 RHP Cesar Carillo went in the 1st round. 6'0 RHP Joey Devine also went in the 1st round and actually made it to the Atlanta Braves big league roster. 5-11 RHP Jeremy Hellickson went in the 4th round.

Somebody did not follow the front office orders and turned in reports on these guys.
Too much talk about height and velocity. Do we all think our Kids are going early in the draft? Only a few do. The scout was probably talking to Tim McCarver (birdbrain of birdbrains). If your boy is a lefty and he can command a fastball in the low to mid 80's, and he can change speeds and has some movement, I know plenty of good colleges that would like to have him, after seeing him of course. Give him time to develop, get him some private instruction and rest him when you can. The private instruction will isolate mechanics and will work on different grips and also the mental side of pitching. Billy Wagner was listed as 5'8" on his college roster, but the scouts listed him at 5'11". How quickly they grow on the reports. Some big league clubs do lean toward big hard throwers but not all teams do. Good luck

Coachric

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