padsfan,
Our resident expert on NCAA rules and regulations addressed your questions earlier in this thread.
Here is the answer based on the research from 3FingeredGlove:
"Regarding cutting scholarship players mid year (D1):
A scholarship player can be cut mid-year in the sense that he is no longer welcome at practice, but his scholarship remains intact until the end of the academic year. Also, his name remains on the 35 man roster.
A program can reduce athletic aid for fraud, disciplinary problems (as judged by the main university, not the athletic department), becoming academically ineligible, or for voluntarily leaving the program. (15.3.4.2) That aid could, in principle, be redistributed to other players in the following term. (15.5.3.2.3) If the aid is terminated in the fall, the player is no longer a counter in the aubsequent spring semester, and would not need to be included in the 35 man roster (17.2.8.3 and 15.5.1)
So, as I see it, if a coach decides in the fall that a scholarship player won't be able to contribute, he has incentive to run the player off. It gives him an extra spot on the 35 man roster, and gives him some flexibility in scholarships for other players. For example, the coach could increase the scholarship for a player in the spring term with the understanding that the player would have a corresponding decrease in the subsequent year."
If the player was cut, as opposed to voluntarily quitting, but chose to stay at the school, he would be a counter and his scholarship could not be redistributed.
very nice posts people. thanks
We were at a D1 school recently and the coach addressed this situation to some parents. He noted that he had a scholarship player that he felt would not continue to contribute and would be replaced by a walk on. He said the scholarship would continue to be in effect for the player leaving (and it stated so on the NLI) assuming that he maintained a certain GPS and did not have off or on campus "issues". Is this the schools position or the NCAA? It sounds like based on what is written here, the coach can pull a scholarship any year leaving the kid with nothing, is that correct?
The school can pull the scholarship only if there is just cause. The coach can't for obvious reasons. Academic money is lost if GPA falls below a certain level but that doesn't affect BB money.
A player that has signed an NLI receiving BB money is deemed by the NCAA to be on the spring roster if he attends the fall tryouts. He will take up a roster spot in the spring whether he plays or not.
A player that has signed an NLI receiving BB money is deemed by the NCAA to be on the spring roster if he attends the fall tryouts. He will take up a roster spot in the spring whether he plays or not.
quote:He noted that he had a scholarship player that he felt would not continue to contribute and would be replaced by a walk on.
I believe he is referring to playing time. The coach cannot arbitrarily take away a scholarship mid year. Usually they red shirt the player so if they leave after the spring season, they don't lose a year of eligibility.
quote:Originally posted by Ebby Calvin Laloosh:
We were at a D1 school recently and the coach addressed this situation to some parents. He noted that he had a scholarship player that he felt would not continue to contribute and would be replaced by a walk on. He said the scholarship would continue to be in effect for the player leaving (and it stated so on the NLI) assuming that he maintained a certain GPS and did not have off or on campus "issues". Is this the schools position or the NCAA? It sounds like based on what is written here, the coach can pull a scholarship any year leaving the kid with nothing, is that correct?
Ebby, the NCAA requires that scholarships are for one year and are subject to review after each year.
For the player example you are using, if the player stayed on the team but was "replaced" for playing time by a walk-on, or was cut, but stayed in school, his scholarship continues for the balance of that academic year provided he maintains grades and does not have on campus issues. He also counts in the 35 player roster limit.
At the end of that academic year, his scholarship would not be renewed for the following year based, on your example.
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Used to be program incentive at DI to keep players...program was still on the hook for the eventual graduation of the player...but that all changed this year. At DI Players over 2.6 GPA are no longer the responsibility of the program....if the player is shifted from Baseball $ to walk on status in June at the year end player/caoch meeting the program no longer has any responsibility to the player or to the NCAA for his graduation. Baseball $ is freed up for the program in any way they see fit after school is overy.
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Used to be program incentive at DI to keep players...program was still on the hook for the eventual graduation of the player...but that all changed this year. At DI Players over 2.6 GPA are no longer the responsibility of the program....if the player is shifted from Baseball $ to walk on status in June at the year end player/caoch meeting the program no longer has any responsibility to the player or to the NCAA for his graduation. Baseball $ is freed up for the program in any way they see fit after school is overy.
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