SC Roster

The same way many major D1 programs do it. Drafted players will be gone. Graduating players will be gone. Some signed will go in the draft. Some returning players will not be in good academic standing and will not return. Some returning players will be told at their exit meetings that they need to seek baseball opportunities at another school. Some returning players will be told that they can come back but will have to fight for a roster spot next fall. Many of them will decide to transfer to avoid the possibility of being cut after the fall.

After the fall the coaches will sit down and decide who needs to go and who needs to stay. That number will be determined by how many are left after all the above scenarios above 35.

That is still have a very high number of people being brought in no matter how you slice it.

Let's not beat around the bush here. They've over recruited. They have the leverage to over recruit, and they are doing it. I would even argue that they have to over recruit because there are too many moving parts here with all the scenarios Coach May outlined above.

They've won 2 national championships back to back. They have a beautiful new facility that rivals some major league parks, and they have a lot of program money. My son did an OV there, and he told me the the facilities are incredible....best he has ever seen anywhere. Economics 101.....little supply (35 roster spots) and great demand from their persepective.

SC is on quite a run, and absolutely have some very talented players. Tanner seems to push all the right buttons, and Holbrook gets the right players. Nobody is doing it better in NCAA baseball right now than SC.

Wait a minute.....am I seeing this correctly? South Carolina only has 5 players from Florida on the roster, none from either Texas or California! How can you win a National Championship without representation from Texas or California especially with 1 from Pennsylvania? But a very important 1.

Ya gotta drive by a lot of good players on the way to TX and California. We play a little in Florida. C Robert Beary is a neighbor kid, Apopka Blue Darters C/0 2007. His dad Kevin was Orange County Sheriff for a long time.

I love South Carolina and how they play. They appear to be the best coached team in the nation. There is no giggling and laughing in their dugout and they are all business. Love Christian Walker. Hard-nosed player who seems to thrive on pressure. The closer Price may be the best closer in the nation. My favorite player is Wingo. He is an excellent ballplayer. I really like how Ray Tanner coaches his team. All that said, Florida is well-coached as well obviously. They are obviously not hurting for talent either but it is very difficult to out-execute South Carolina without making a mistake here or there.

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"There is no giggling and laughing in their dugout and they are all business."

What? No giggling or laughing allowed in business? Back when they were allowing cameras in the dug out I seem to recall Oregon State's shortstop, Darwin Barney, being shown with an apparent lighthearted demeanor (perhaps not giggling or uncontrolled laughter) in the dug out.

I think his personality in the dug out (and his sterling play in the field) was an important factor in building a positive and obviously productive chemistry on those Beaver teams. Oh...and Pat Casey is a pretty good coach too.

I agree with you wholly about Wingo. All business? Seemed to be I guess, but he and the rest of the team very plainly were not bothered by pressure...they indeed thrived on it. They are an inspiring and impressive team to watch. Ray Tanner corralled a winner...two years in a row! He and his team are champions!

So my point is there are many ways to establish a winning chemistry on a team. Finding just the right mix to come out on top is an extremely difficult task, but well worth the effort.

Congratulations to Coach Tanner and his Gamecocks for finding that mix again!




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I love South Carolina and how they play.

Me too! Very fun to watch.

Got to remember, in college baseball, many kids on the roster are not on any type of scholarship. Plus they are likely to lose over 1/2 the current team (45) to graduation and draft. Plus many of their recruits were drafted high too. Depending on what Matt Price does, there are only a couple of starters coming back, most likely, and a few more role players. Many who remain are either seeds for the future or just roster spots.

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Oh those dratted roster spots!

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As far as I can tell they had 8 players drafted and that included a couple seniors. Let's a total of 10 are lost to the draft and graduation. Let's say 3 of their recruits are lost to the draft, just guessing. That leaves 7 players either recruits or current players who will not end up with a roster spot. It is pretty normal to lose 3 or 4 players who decide not to continue due to lack of playing time or to focus on grades. 20 recruits doesn't seem all that far off for that type of school.

Tanner over recruits and always has and always will, his philosophy is that he gives opportunitities for as many as he can to wear the colors and have a chance to compete, with or without scholarship. That's not necessarily a bad thing, and that is how it is done at many top programs. Coach May summed it up pretty well.

Scott Wingo's dad attended Clemson and that was where he dreamed of attending, unfortunetly he was not offered at Clemson, so therefore I am sure that these past two years have been buttersweet ones for him.

I am a bit sad today that the the Gators didn't pull it off, they had a lot of time off while SC picked up momentum. That happens. But the best team pulled it off.

Congratulations to Ray Tanner and Gamecock nation.

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"But the best team pulled it off.

Congratulations to Ray Tanner and Gamecock nation."

Honesty and class!



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Originally posted by PA Dino:
Wait a minute.....am I seeing this correctly? South Carolina only has 5 players from Florida on the roster, none from either Texas or California! How can you win a National Championship without representation from Texas or California especially with 1 from Pennsylvania? But a very important 1.

That ONE, Christian Walker won the high school home run derby at The Trop when Bryce Harper got all the attention for hitting one off the back wall.

South Carolina had 21 drafted -- 11 current players and 10 recruits. There's no telling who will be back and who will not, especially the later picks. That's what coaches at this level must sort through each year. They do sign numbers at the upper end. As someone said, they're rather give chances to players and not get caught short-handed. The recruits should understand the competitive nature of all this if they've been playing attention. Fall practice is high stakes for the walk-ons.

As for the CWS, Florida played Saturday, Monday/Tuesday (rain delay) and Friday before the championship series, while South Carolina played Sunday, Tuesday, and Friday before the championship series. Both went unbeaten so not sure how it could be said how the Gamecocks built up more momentum while Florida was off.

You are right, I missed the FL game on the 24th.
Nrain freeze, I guess playing the two days in a row threw me off.

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Originally posted by obrady:
Got to remember, in college baseball, many kids on the roster are not on any type of scholarship. Plus they are likely to lose over 1/2 the current team (45) to graduation and draft. Plus many of their recruits were drafted high too. Depending on what Matt Price does, there are only a couple of starters coming back, most likely, and a few more role players. Many who remain are either seeds for the future or just roster spots.

Official roster is 35 of which maximum of 27 are on a minimum of 33% scholarship.

You sure the minimum is 33? Thought it was a 25% minimum.

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Originally posted by Gold Glove:
Official roster is 35 of which maximum of 27 are on a minimum of 33% scholarship.

Minimum is 25%, not 33%