Scholarship offer

He could always sign with a Juco now and then just see if any D1/D2 schools offer him later.

It has been our experience that the offers do have a expiration date, this could be to put pressure on the recruit but also is so the program can move on and offer another player if it does not work out.

If you are very serious but need more time to say make other visits, talk to them and be up front with them.

Good Luck, enjoy the ride!

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"Sign with a JUCO?"

Maybe I've been out of this area for too long, but I don't get it. Is there some kind of scholarship being offered? Since when did JUCO's cost so much that money was even an issue? We live in one of the top JUCO areas in the whole country, with one of the best JUCO teams right here in town, and I know the Coach VERY WELL... and I know for a fact that if a kid is a legitimate prospect, he'd be welcome 'til the last day of signing eligibility (if there even is one...).

Now don't misunderstand my baseball sentiments towards JUCO's, because I happen to think them to be a very serious venue to get to the next level (whether that be pro or 4 year school), but I have just never heard of a "signing deadline". Unless you don't want to be locked out of the Draft for 3 years, or unless you are a less then serious student, or unless there is no 4 year offer... why would you close the door to a future 4 year offer? And what document are they asking you to sign? There's no NLI, is there?

cadDAD

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AcademyDad,

Yes there is a scholarship being offered and no money isn't the issue but committment is. Although if you want to compare the two years at a juco compared to the first two years at a four year school the savings can be enormous. Players choose juco's for alot of reasons other than grades, and the draft. In my son's case it was due to injury. He wants to stay close to home and continue to work with people who are familiar with his rehab. Also about the deadline, that's the reason for this post. Wanted to know if this is common practice or maybe it's just this teams practice.

Glad to hear that that you live in one of the top Juco areas and know the Coach VERY WELL!

Believe it or not we have some pretty good prospects on the East Coast also.


Banditsbb

Not sure about California, but here in Florida JUCO's do offer scholarships that include room and board as well as food. Granted that the total dollar amount does not add up to much more than around 10k but there are only so many spots available on a roster and once the scholarships are out they are gone and are usually granted to the players expected to start. We signed paperwork, I don't recall if it was termed as a LOI but the dollars and provisions were laid out in writing.

In Florida kids are recruited from all over the country, son's current team has a pitcher from Ontario, and a few years back the local JUCO has a SS from Venezeula (?). The spots fill up fast and then they are gone.

banditsbb, coach's here want comitment also, then move on to complete their roster if comitment is not there, just like every other level of recruiting.

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banditsbb...

You have a PM.

cadDAD

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My son just signed a JUCO letter of intent Friday and he has a great scholarship offer. After the Tennessee lottery and his baseball scholarship we are left with his books and about half of his meals. He is very excited and so are we!!

AcademyDad,

Thanks for the PM and understood.


Banditsbb

The coach did not tell us a definite date my son had to make the decision but did make it clear that with the season getting ready to start they would be super busy and the dollar amount offer would not be on the table for long. Once he guaranteed a weekend start that is all my son needed to hear. He is a young senior and does not want to be red-shirted.

banditsbb-

We just had an offer and were told the same thing (14 day limit.)

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Originally posted by sunshinesmom:
The coach did not tell us a definite date my son had to make the decision but did make it clear that with the season getting ready to start they would be super busy and the dollar amount offer would not be on the table for long. Once he guaranteed a weekend start that is all my son needed to hear. He is a young senior and does not want to be red-shirted.

a weekend start? or a weekend starter? If it is guarantee that he will be a weekend starter, I would run away as quickly as possible. Why would a coach hand tie himself that way, it should be based on current performance (what have you done for me lately?)

No scholarships no money for California Junior colleges.

Is California the only state that does not offer scholarships?
Just wondering what costs run out there.

California JC Fees:

Enrollment:
California resident tuition is $20.00 per unit.

Non-California resident tuition:
Non-resident students are charged $201.00 per unit ($181.00 per unit plus $20.00 per unit enrollment fee) if they are U.S. citizens or permanent residents.

Non-residents of the United State of America are charged $208.00 per unit ($188.00 per unit plus $20.00 per unit enrollment fee).

Student Union fee
$1.00 per unit or fraction up to a maximum of $10.00 per academic year is charged to pay for the Student Center. This fee is only charged to courses held on the campus.

Books and supplies:
An estimated cost for books and supplies per semester for a full-time student is approximately $300.00.

Plus minor other fees.

i believe it's only d1 juco's that offer full scholarships. full baseball scholarships,it's the size of them, i think. most of the d2 d3 juco's/cc are commuter schools. no housing.

bandits

if this was my son,i would sign with the jc.2 reason's money and money. seriously, you can do 2 years for less than 1 at a 4 year school. if he's not acedemic they tend to give a little more help where needed. the baseball is pretty good too.

sounds like he's going to be back strong,good luck in your son's sr year. enjoy it.

homerun,

I meant weekend starter-thanks!! You are right that sealed the deal. The coach had seen my son play in the TBCA showcase last summer and knew he played on one of the Memphis Elite travel teams but he transferred his junior year of high school and had to play jv for a while so his stats were not as stacked as others but the ability is there. I think signing also will help him relax when the season starts. He clicked right away with this coach. He is only 17 and won't be 18 until late summer-he is still growing and is very teachable. And two hours away from home is just far enough to start growing up but close enough for mom to bring food-ha ha-plus it is close enough for us to come watch him play. I can't imagine watching him play all these years and then he is so far away we couldn't always come. He may not admit it but he likes to look up and see family in the stands even if it is younger sisters making noise bothering everyone else!!

Banditsbb, my son got a LOI from a Nevada JC, on it he commits to this school only, could not attend any other JCs. It did say the letter had to be signed within 14 days. The LOI specified how much they were covering. In our case son did not have the SAT/grades for any big school to offer him and even if they did the balance of the cost would be too great a burden for us. My son had a lot of exposure, and this was the only school who actually made an offer. My only regret is this school is 11 hours away.

Should start a thread about this but as well as Ca.JCs Not getting scholarship money, does anyone notice they are never in the world series??? Why is that? Because they were winning it to often???

I think that CA JC's are not part of the NCJAA tourney. Seems I heard they do their own thing. Maybe I am wrong but I never see any CA school in it.

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We do indeed have our own. I'm glad 04 and a couple of others pointed out that our entire system is different than the rest of the country. It was why some of my earlier remarks must have seemed snooty or out of order.

In California, our system is basically set up more like an extension of HS. The tuition is very low (subsidized by our taxes), there are very few schools which offer any kind of housing/meal plans, etc, and most kids live at home. Athletes usually do not play for schools in other areas... I say usually, but there are exceptions to that as well.

But.... our baseball is quite good. Weather, length of season, and just the fact that we have a pool of 36 million people from which to draw...

cadDAD

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I heard they stopped being invited, but thats just what I heard.

CA is not a member of the NCJAA.

Why aren't they? Just curious thats all, not trying to start an argument.

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Originally posted by Homerun04:

a weekend start? or a weekend starter? If it is guarantee that he will be a weekend starter, I would (edited) run away as quickly as possible. Why would a coach hand tie himself that way, it should be based on current performance (what have you done for me lately?)

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Originally posted by sunshinesmom:
homerun,

I meant weekend starter-thanks!! You are right that sealed the deal.

I edited my note....

A highly regarded JC (California JC do not offer baseball scholarships) was recruiting my son and stated that he would be a starter in his position, my concern with his statement was I was aware that there was a returning player in that position and there were three other players who played that position that was also going to go to that school and we thought it was a very nice complement toward my son, but it is bold statement that we thought most legitimate coaches would not make to a possible incoming recruit.

I have heard many a coach state that he would possibly “compete for a starting position” but not guarantee the position....turns out there were five players who actually showed up on campus, none of which were my son.

I suspect CA JC's aren't part of the NJCAA as scheduling games, playoffs etc are difficult and expensive enough w/o adding another level of playoffs and deadlines.

RE: promising playing time, I suspect its a bit more legitimate for a coach at the JC level then D1 level to do so. Most JC's are dealing with a few legit D-1 level players and its not to hard to promise a player at that level playing time when the guy in his position isn't.

thanks Collegeparent,

In reference to the weekend playing and the starting position that is exactly what we were told and when we watched the team practice we knew the coach was correct. We are also talking about a smaller JUCO. My son knows he will have to earn his "spot"

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