Where can you get a list of pro scouts in your area? Kentucky thanks
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Baseball America puts out a book on MLB teams or did years ago and their contact info but to get scouts names and numbers I don't know of anything that can help you there that is open to the general public if that is what you are looking for. Easy way to find out is call each team and ask them who covers that state and can you leave a message for that scout. They may let you leave a message in that scouts answer machine or they may not.
Got to ask why, call me snooping if you will and if it is about a very good baseball player that no ones knows about I mite be able to help and we will leave it at that.
Got to ask why, call me snooping if you will and if it is about a very good baseball player that no ones knows about I mite be able to help and we will leave it at that.
quote:Originally posted by kevin25:
Where can you get a list of pro scouts in your area? Kentucky thanks
Contact your MLB area scout.
And be careful of who offers advice over the internet.
I think TPM he/she is trying to find that out and their best bet is to call the teams and talk to them. You are correct in watching or offering advice but I will tell you if I offer advice it is with the best intentions for the party who ask. You may not like what I write to someone as it may contradict what you think or say that is up to you as you do not know me but being new here I understand some people may get upset. I am not going to tell someone what they want to hear just to make their day as they want to know what can help them.
The bottom part I wrote for the simple reason you will be surprised just how many poor kids do not have the money for show cases or anything like that and only want to be seen.
All kids need that opportunity to be seen and told yes or no of their ability either for college or pro. Yes, I do know a few scouts who cover that state for baseball and as such it is not my place to give out that information on line or the phone but to tell them how they can find that information and handle it their self.
The bottom part I wrote for the simple reason you will be surprised just how many poor kids do not have the money for show cases or anything like that and only want to be seen.
All kids need that opportunity to be seen and told yes or no of their ability either for college or pro. Yes, I do know a few scouts who cover that state for baseball and as such it is not my place to give out that information on line or the phone but to tell them how they can find that information and handle it their self.
My husband bought a used 2010 scout directory I believe on Amazon for a couple bucks.
Pony,
You made a claim if Kevin is looking for a scout to identify a very good baseball player you could help, who are you and how can you help. How are you connected to the baseball world that you are able to help a player from KY when you are in FL?
Why not tell us who you are? I am not afraid to let people know who I am.
Also note if you did know anything about the scouting world, Kevin does not have to go to BA to look for scouts that may not be with teams anymore, calling each team is quite time consuming.
Kevin, call the commissioners office and ask for the Major League Area Scout in the area you are looking for, he will be able to help you and answer any questions. He is the one who contacts teams about a player and very helpful.
Hope that this helps.
You made a claim if Kevin is looking for a scout to identify a very good baseball player you could help, who are you and how can you help. How are you connected to the baseball world that you are able to help a player from KY when you are in FL?
Why not tell us who you are? I am not afraid to let people know who I am.
Also note if you did know anything about the scouting world, Kevin does not have to go to BA to look for scouts that may not be with teams anymore, calling each team is quite time consuming.
Kevin, call the commissioners office and ask for the Major League Area Scout in the area you are looking for, he will be able to help you and answer any questions. He is the one who contacts teams about a player and very helpful.
Hope that this helps.
Great question! Here is how to play catch in front of a scout This is funny.
One of the misconceptions about scouts are they take into consideration the work ethic of a player. If you are a lefty hitter and can hit they don't care. Son had two team mates get drafted from his JC, one was lazy, enjoyed his weed, the other was dropped from the team for not complying with team rules and practices. If MLB thinks you have the talent/tools all those things go out the door. I don't mean to discourage the hard workers out there but in baseball it literally is a beauty contest.
quote:One of the misconceptions about scouts are they take into consideration the work ethic of a player... I don't mean to discourage the hard workers out there but in baseball it literally is a beauty contest.
It is just hard, for me, to imagine these opinions in a section dedicated to the memory of bbscout.
It would be interesting to hear how Doug might respond.
I sure won't pretend to know what he might say. My guess is he would come back pretty strong and disagree since there are 30 teams and a vast scouting network within each and within MLB.
I will say comments like dedication, hard worker, grinder and love's to play are among some common comments since I have followed draft tracker summaries over the years. I would venture to say the players I know in Milb are very, very hard workers. The vast majority of players I met through our son were very, very hard workers. The one's who were not just didn't last long. Milb is a tough proving ground and ST plus 144 games usually exposes about everything to see in terms of succeeding or failing.
Of course every player who gets signed and gets a chance has to have some awfully good talent. Intangibles, good and bad, exist.
Talented players who lack in work ethic like those PUHD references, who don't get the job done on the field, don't last all that long. The #1 pick in 2004 comes to mind pretty quickly.
PUHD, I am not sure if you are trying to create some controversy or just have a very, very limited view, or both. My view is for the larger population of scouts and those who run the draft, you are wrong. Taken from a different perspective, as bbscout used to say, scouts who don't do their homework in all aspects of a player, especially those who get a large bonus, get fired.
Infield, my intent was not to dishonor bbscout. When a player is kicked off a team for lack of effort, and everyone knows this, why in the world would anyone sign them when there are plenty of other hard working players out there. Just because he is a good hitting lefty, why spend teams money on this prospect? These aren't 18 year old Harpers, but over 20.
A good work ethic should have developed by now.
Maybe they do wash out, but why take the chance.
Scouts are like the general population, some are real good, others, so.so. It gives one the impression you don't have to work at your game, just be good like the first rounders.
I'm not doubting their desire to play, to me it sends the wrong message.
A good work ethic should have developed by now.
Maybe they do wash out, but why take the chance.
Scouts are like the general population, some are real good, others, so.so. It gives one the impression you don't have to work at your game, just be good like the first rounders.
I'm not doubting their desire to play, to me it sends the wrong message.
As a parent of a pro player who has had to overcome lots of obstacles, work his butt off after 3 surgeries and also knowing other players who have put their heart and soul into their dream, I find the comments made pretty much either a lack of truely understanding the entire process or just plain jealousy.
I think that infielddad pretty much summed it up, scouts work really hard at what they do, those that get players drafted that have off the field issues, usually don't get to keep their job.
For those that don't know, all minor league players are tested upon signing, and subject to random testing 12 months throughout the year. So if you are a regular user of something, it won't stay hidden for much longer. 50 game suspension first offense, that means you go home, no pay, and you already have one strike against you.
If those were the type of players that were at that particular JC, it doesn't say much for the coach that recruited them (let alone the scout that convinced his boss that they were good picks). Let others know so they can not have their sons subjected to that type of program.
I just want people to know that what you have posted IS not necessarily correct.
I think that infielddad pretty much summed it up, scouts work really hard at what they do, those that get players drafted that have off the field issues, usually don't get to keep their job.
For those that don't know, all minor league players are tested upon signing, and subject to random testing 12 months throughout the year. So if you are a regular user of something, it won't stay hidden for much longer. 50 game suspension first offense, that means you go home, no pay, and you already have one strike against you.
If those were the type of players that were at that particular JC, it doesn't say much for the coach that recruited them (let alone the scout that convinced his boss that they were good picks). Let others know so they can not have their sons subjected to that type of program.
I just want people to know that what you have posted IS not necessarily correct.
amen t that
quote:Originally posted by TPM:quote:Originally posted by kevin25:
Where can you get a list of pro scouts in your area? Kentucky thanks
Contact your MLB area scout.
And be careful of who offers advice over the internet.
quote:Originally posted by Pop Up Hitter dad:
Infield, my intent was not to dishonor bbscout. When a player is kicked off a team for lack of effort, and everyone knows this, why in the world would anyone sign them when there are plenty of other hard working players out there. Just because he is a good hitting lefty, why spend teams money on this prospect? These aren't 18 year old Harpers, but over 20.
A good work ethic should have developed by now.
Maybe they do wash out, but why take the chance.
Scouts are like the general population, some are real good, others, so.so. It gives one the impression you don't have to work at your game, just be good like the first rounders.
I'm not doubting their desire to play, to me it sends the wrong message.
PUHD,
Thanks for the explanation. It sounds like you are referencing a couple of examples only but your initial comment seemed to indict the entire scouting system. This statement hit me wrong:
"One of the misconceptions about scouts are they take into consideration the work ethic of a player. If you are a lefty hitter and can hit they don't care."
Personally, I don't know who is being sent the wrong message. Most of the players I know in Milb, and those with whom our son played, worked their backside off.
They had no time for anyone who did not.
The players I know who are currently in Milb seem to have been the very, very hardest workers and, in my view, deserve everything they get, maybe more.
For your examples, maybe the scouts didn't do their job in ferreting out those issues. Little doubt that happens.
However, the scout does not draft the players. The GM and/or director of scouting makes that call. Perhaps they felt the players deserved a second chance, perhaps they didn't know what you describe, and perhaps they knew it, took a chance, and those issues impacted the player financially in his bonus.
The draft is as vulnerable as human nature itself. Mistakes get made. Scouting directors and scouts get fired. It is a tough, tough business.
Maybe we are saying similar things which is some scouts make mistakes and some scouts don't do their homework.
In my view, to then send the message hard work doesn't matter, I won't go there. Hard work and love of the game does matter for most who get drafted and succeed every year in Milb.
In fact, for the vast majority of players, if they are not a very hard worker who loves the game, they won't have a chance even if they do get drafted.
Baseball Directory that Baseball America puts out, lists the scouts that work for major league clubs and the major league scouting bureau, and many times lists where the scout is from/lives.quote:Originally posted by Pony:
Baseball America puts out a book on MLB teams or did years ago and their contact info but to get scouts names and numbers I don't know of anything that can help you there that is open to the general public if that is what you are looking for. Easy way to find out is call each team and ask them who covers that state and can you leave a message for that scout. They may let you leave a message in that scouts answer machine or they may not.
Got to ask why, call me snooping if you will and if it is about a very good baseball player that no ones knows about I mite be able to help and we will leave it at that.
If you write to the teams, even through the internet and have a fax machine available, some clubs will fax their directory of scouts, but not all clubs do that mind you.
Infield, very good response. I sincerely hope they do take into account a persons work ethic and desire. MLB goes through so many players, they don't have much to lose on a lower draft pick. Many will play for food.