Scouts and pitching, im confused about whats going on?

I am not aware that scouts could talk to the guys on scouts day. My osn's D1 had scouts day and guys were throwing 94mph and no one talked to them. The scout sit behind the screen and don't approach anyone. There were 3 guys cruising above 90.

the MLB scouts approached the pitchers, a couple of the D1 D2 schools talked to them after the game, not out in the open that im aware of, but they definitely through coach or phone calls expressed their interest

Generally the coaches do not like scouts talking to their team.
The guy cruising between 92-94 was a soph and a 1st team freshman last year. No one approached him or any other pitcher.

What grade are you in? That could be a factor.

interesting, well when do schools and scouts generally approach you? schools are starting to sign players, and other guys are starting to go on official visits now
im a soph and a juco

JC is different. They can approach in any year I believe. Generally coaches don't like scouts talking to their players at thye scout day.
The 82-85 were they LHPs ?

we had RHP and LHP get talked to throwing that velo

OK, let's recap here. Until May 2008, you've been a catcher. (By the way, I am curious as to why being colorblind would keep a 1.8 pop guy from being a catcher?)
So you've been pitching for about 4 months. Your 2 seam moves little more than your 4 seam, which I suspect means that your 4 seam doesn't move either.
Your JUCO coach recommends that you look at NAIA or D3 schools. Now there's been a scout day, and there hasn't been immediate contact from pro scouts or college recruiters, even though teammates have been contacted.

What does this mean? Probably it means that at your current level of development and talent (as perceived by outside observers), you aren't an obvious pro, D1, or D2 prospect.

But it's nothing to be discouraged about-- I can't imagine that you've had enough time to become a skilled pitcher. The results of three at-bats aren't very meaningful. Insteads scouts and recruiters look for things like consistent mechanics, ball movement, time to the plate, and velocity.

Speaking of velocity, is the 89-91mph what the scouts/recruiters saw on their radar guns? Or is that an estimate of your speed? If you can really hit 90 most of the time, with good movement and control, that ought to attract some interest from colleges.

ive been actually pitched for 2 months with game exp.
i dont throw a 2 seam, i throw a four and it runs about 4 inches and sinks a little.
the guns said 89-91 consistantly according to my fellow pitchers who were doing charts in the stands.
my coach changed his mind from before and said i could play at a top 25 school and another top 50 school, but he told themnot to come watch me until springtime.

I would be surprised if a college would gamble of a pitcher withy 2 months exp.

Allowing the scouts and coaches to talk to players is usually up to the coaches. At my son's former school, that is when the coaches WANT them to talk to the prospects.
It doesn't matter what your velo is, you need a 2 seam FB. Also, you haven't mentioned what else you throw? Change up, slider? How's your CB? Most D1 players need at least 3 good pitches they throw for strikes.

JUCO players are being looked at so they can come in immediately and make an impact. Coaches only want to tweak them, not teach them. The same for MLB scouts.

I guess that this is a good example, it's not all about velocity, but what you can do with it when you have it.

89-91 is quite good and definitely good enough to transfer to a D1 but there are other factors. For starters, college coaches might have three or four other righties that have that speed. Maybe they don't like your breaking pitch or accuracy. Yes they need guys with velocity but they also need guys with stuff and accuracy now to get outs, especially from a transfer guy. Pros might be more lenient in teaching it, given your good velocity, but there are a LOT of pro guys that throw 89-91 from the right side.

Don't get discouraged. Keep working on your mechanics and off-speed pitches.

i have a cb sld and splitter that are all dominant pitches (accuracy is an issue occasionally) that i feel i can throw and the batter wont hit, im working on a CU.
good to know thanks.
il be the closer for our team, and i think thats where il stay
thanks for the info i appreciate it

Something doesn't add up. First of all, I don't care if it's your first day on the mound- 89-91 will get you noticed. You mentioned four pitches that are dominant. I call BS. I disagree with a couple of the others on here regarding how many pitches you need in college (much less pro ball). If you have a FB along with another pitch you can throw for a stike (with another you can show for variance) you will be successful. You obviously can't locate. Also, 1.8 pop to second? No way in games. You aren't coming clean. Sorry for being the realist here.

i was sub 2 in games pop time, i just had the luxury to wait and make a better throw about 86 down to second. i dont catch anymore cause i cant pickup the ball unless there is a batters eye since im color blind and well we dont play at places with batters eyes so my future comes to an abrupt stop catching.
i had a lot of trouble locating at the beginning of the fall but im wild in the strike zone now, im not saying im hitting my spots perfect, but my mechanics are getting more consistant and everytime i pitch im getting closer to my spots. sometimes i spike my CB, sometimes my slider is a cutter cause i dont have the timing of my finger turn exact with ym release al the time. and my spliter bites hard but it doesnt spin so i can only throw it once in awhile because its easy to pickup. thats coming clean, im hard headed enough to believe im playing in the MLB

Throw no more than three pitches- period. Find one breaking ball that you're comfortable with and preferably a change or a split. Don't be so fine and start pitching to contact. If you're good, everybody will figure it out in the spring.

If you have a curve that bites down and hard work with that pitch and drop the slider. Most pitchers will be successful throwing one or the other but not both. I agree with ncball that a good fastball (first and foremost) and one good breaking pitch are plenty to be successful in college ball but keep working on the changeup as well.

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Originally posted by ncball:
Throw no more than three pitches- period. Find one breaking ball that you're comfortable with and preferably a change or a split. Don't be so fine and start pitching to contact. If you're good, everybody will figure it out in the spring.

I agree with the above, and if you have a good FB that you can do different things with you don't need more than a good breaking ball. Definetly start pitching to contact and stop trying to be a finesse type guy because that slows you down if you don't have the pin point control to dominate.

I like your hard headed philosophy, it might get you to milb but I am not sure if you realize what it takes to play MLB. I know of a pitcher that has a 94-96mph heavy FB, that moves with sink, pitches to contact with a CB, a CU and a slider and he realizes that, even with all of the above it doesn't always get you onto a MLB field.

Keep working hard.

TPM yeah i know people like that who never make it, but there also are plenty of guys between 88-92 who are very successful in the MLB its just about breaks i guess, and i believe god and doing things for the right reasons has a lot to do with it.

thanks i definitely appreciate the advice guys

86 from behind the plate to 2d? Doubtful. If you can do that you ought to be 100 mph off the mound.

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Originally posted by bakstop007:
i was sub 2 in games pop time, i just had the luxury to wait and make a better throw about 86 down to second. i dont catch anymore cause i cant pickup the ball unless there is a batters eye since im color blind and well we dont play at places with batters eyes so my future comes to an abrupt stop catching.
i had a lot of trouble locating at the beginning of the fall but im wild in the strike zone now, im not saying im hitting my spots perfect, but my mechanics are getting more consistant and everytime i pitch im getting closer to my spots. sometimes i spike my CB, sometimes my slider is a cutter cause i dont have the timing of my finger turn exact with ym release al the time. and my spliter bites hard but it doesnt spin so i can only throw it once in awhile because its easy to pickup. thats coming clean, im hard headed enough to believe im playing in the MLB

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Originally posted by bakstop007:
We had scout day last week and after pitchers pitched after the game scouts would talk to the pitchers they were interested in or give them some sheet to fill out. i was cruising (gave up no hits 1 walk) 89-91 struck out two guys one on a CB that made the kid buckle and another on a FB right by him, got another to pop up in the infield foul territory. but after i pitched nooo school or scout said anything, none have called or contacted me, whereas many pitchers i know throwing 82-85 and gave up runs, multiple hits have been contacted about visits. another guy got a letter from an MLB team who hit 90 and gave up hits.... whats going on? im just confused about this

We used to have Pro Scout Days at Bradley University, were I pitched before playing pro ball. I think a big misconception about these events is that scouts are looking at stats; they're really looking at physical tools, mental and physical make-up, raw talent and potential.

The entire draft process can be frustrating. I know first hand having gone through it and been drafted twice (A's and Cubs). I'd encourage you to only worry about that which you can control: your work ethic, your focus, your mental and physical preparation and approach. Let the rest go. Keep working hard and your day will come, too!