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What do people think of this situation? It happened to former high school teammates of mine. They sat the varsity bench sophomore and junior years behind very talented players. The team won the conference and made states twice.

Their senior year the coach didn't think the team would be very good. He didn't play the seniors. He went with youth to build for the future. These three seniors were contributing subs for two conference championships. They were better than most of the players getting playing time. Two quit midseason. One stayed for the practice. He starred on a Legion team and played college ball.

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The best nine should play and the coach should strategically insert underclassmen for the future benefit of the program. If league and post-season become out of reach, the play of underclassmen should be heightened a bit but not without due respect to the seniors. A total sellout of the seniors from the beginning solely for the future benefit of the program is definitely not right. A good coach can look out for the future but still find ways to recognize that each player only gets one short go around at HS sports.
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[quote]The best nine should play

I am always amazed how somehow the snior thing comes into play. Like it is a right. what if you are not playing well? does a coach just say he is a senior he has to play? I do not get it. We would have some who would say it is unfair to the senior as he has been on the team 3 years yada yada yada. Now with that in mind tell that same thing to an underclassmen who is better that the reason he is not playing is because the othr kid is a senior and he deserves to play because he is a senior.
I would call it screwing the seniors if you bring up players to play over the seniors and they're not better players or have shown the qualities that the senior lacks such as attitude and hustle. That in my book isn't building for the program. You build for the program if the seniors aren't producing and call up JV players who the coach feels are ready to step in and produce. This sounds more a coach giving up and letting out his frustration on his players that have been with him for four years instead of looking at himself in the mirror and asking himself what he should've done better to prepare his teams for battle.
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I just posted about this in the other thread.

Heck, last year my son's team had 7 or 8 seniors and a divisional MVP pitcher and still only managed an 8-10 record. So it's pretty obvious w/ only 3 returning seniors this year and only 1 experienced pitcher (then mostly sophs, who as a team did very well in freshman playoffs last year) that the coach decided before the season that this was a throwaway (and he's probably right). So in such a year, do you groom the future players or let the kids who have been in the program finish out their HS career? In this case, I'm only talking about ONE sophomore who has been brought up to play SS, so it's not like a bunch of seniors have lost their spots - YET.

But the spot that the soph. was given IS the coveted SS. So now the senior who played there the past two years (back when HE was the flavor of the day) is over at 2B and the junior who played SS on the JV and freshman teams the past 2 years (my son) is learning a brand new spot at 3B (which has its challenges). My son is still happy to be in the lineup and hitting, but he does miss the extra action of SS, as well as the extra time to pick "his" hop, etc..

So, in a year that wins are obviously going to be tough to come by, should a coach "give" SS to a soph. over a senior and junior who each have 2 years experience in this program playing there, for a soph. who played there just one year as a freshman and hadn't yet played a single inning of varsity???

[See other thread for more info.]
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Maybe that's why we're out here questioning coaches' decisions on a message board? Roll Eyes

As I said, my son is NOT the senior former-SS who has been moved to 2B for a soph. But if that were YOUR son, would you/he seriously be able to embrace the "wherever coach needs me..." attitude if he was the one who was brought up to V as a soph. to play SS and is now being cast aside for the latest hot prospect? (And with no disrespect intended, if you haven't already BEEN in this position, I'm sorry, but your opinion of "Never question the coach" doesn't seem to have been quite as tested, does it?)
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What kind of program are you building when you just throw the guys under the bus that have invested four years in your program? What does that tell those underclassman? Maybe when I am a Sr the coach will just throw me under the bus?

Just play the best players. Play the guys that give you the best chance to win that day. Give everyone an opportunity every chance you get to get experience and get the experience of playing. Those same people crying about the underclass guys not getting opportunities will be the same ones crying about their player losing playing time to a younger player later in their career.

The coach has a team and a program to be concerned about. Some parents are only concerned about their kid and what he is getting or not getting. For goodness sake sit back and enjoy these years and stay out of the politics and complaining. Let your son make his mark and earn what he gets. You will enjoy these four years much more. And so will he. JMHO
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Originally posted by warningtrack:
There are two positions is baseball; on the field and on the bench. Quit worrying who is playing what position.


I gotta agree with warningtrack...My son has played all three positions (2B, SS, 3B) for his HS team,and all positions except 1B if you count summer ball during HS. The only position he doesn't enjoy is the bench...

He initially tried out for SS and they moved him all around...next year he tried out for 3B and they told him he earned it, but they needed him at SS and he played there most of the season. Next year he started at SS, but they moved him to 3B or 2B occasionally...this year so far, he's been the only SS they've used...His ability (other than improving with age and experience) didn't change, but the roster and accordingly the needs of the team did.

Playing time can be expanded by being willing (even eager) to play where they need you...

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