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Now that I have got my feet wet in the world of select baseball and seen what I have seen ~ Do any of you think there is a market for coaching seminars aimed at youth league coaches that are new to the gig? Covering such items as 1) practice organization 2) game management 3) game conduct 4) player & parent personalities 5) fundemental drills 6) general baseball philosophy ~ I could go on but you get the idea.
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Without question! And seminars for parents might be a top seller as well. I wish I had been able to see the big picture when my first son started to show a little promise as a 7 yr old SS in....yikes....1989! Now that we are all experts, I'm sure we could help you out here, doc. Big Grin

I think coaching seminars, run by genuine baseball men like you and a few of your "boys", would be valuable to those that realize that they have a lot to learn -- especially those that love the game and want to avoid the pitfalls associated with select teams.
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Originally posted by swingdoctor14:
Now that I have got my feet wet in the world of select baseball and seen what I have seen ~ Do any of you think there is a market for coaching seminars aimed at youth league coaches that are new to the gig? Covering such items as 1) practice organization 2) game management 3) game conduct 4) player & parent personalities 5) fundemental drills 6) general baseball philosophy ~ I could go on but you get the idea.
Not only seminars but DVD's. From having gone through rec ball in baseball through LL and softball through age ten, I'd say more than half the coaches are well intentioned dads who don't know what they're doing. The same exists in travel but these teams don't last long.
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Thanks guys for the input. And as far as DVD's ~ that was in the hopper already as well. I think the most eye opening event I have seen in my 2 months of "select life" is the screaming and demeaning of 10 & 11 year olds. How in the world can you expect them to play after you have crushed them in front of their friends as well as family? Holding a runner on 1st with men on 1st and 2nd. Holding a runner on 3B. There is absolutly NO ONE backing up every throw. These are fundementals that need to be learned at an early age. Before you start that there are more fundementals than that ~ I understand. I just don't like to type.
I took this job with the understanding with all the parents that these kids would play every position on the field with the exception of lefties. They have not been the same batting order in 17 games. Mr. Cleanup has hit in the 9 hole like everybody else and when it's his time to sit he does. They have learned to be TEAM MATES. You ought to see the worst player's face when he looks at the line up and sees he leading off and pitching. It's been an eye opening experience for all of us. Parents-players-coaches.
More on this later.
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The NORTH TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL COACHES ASSOCIATION puts on a free clinic for youth and select coaches in January. We cover such topics as hitting, fielding, base running, pitching, catching, infield play, outfield play and practice organization. Speakers are usually HS coaches or instructors from around the area. Check back in Dec. for date, place and time.
SwingDr.
Yes, Coach Rustenhaven will have the info. when the time comes. A date, location won't be decided upon until sometime in December. Look for it to be the last part of January. In the past we got the word out to nearly all league organizations in the metroplex. Now that I know where this site is, I will be sure to post the information.
The main prob with dads coaching is they are coaching what they were always taught (by some H.S. coach somewhere) growing up.. offensively:
Swing level, swing, down, cast your hands, don't dip your back shoulder, go get the outside pitch, get your back elbow up, keep your hands above the barrel, squish the bug, etc, etc... that is one huge prob. Just because a guy is a high school/college coach doesn't mean he knows what he is talking about (mechanics)....

I have been in some facilities (in metro area) and watched instruction going on... heard all this same ****... some times you would just think that someone would ask "why?"...
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Originally posted by Diablo con Huevos:
The main prob with dads coaching is they are coaching what they were always taught (by some H.S. coach somewhere) growing up.. offensively:
Swing level, swing, down, cast your hands, don't dip your back shoulder, go get the outside pitch, get your back elbow up, keep your hands above the barrel, squish the bug, etc, etc... that is one huge prob. Just because a guy is a high school/college coach doesn't mean he knows what he is talking about (mechanics)....

I have been in some facilities (in metro area) and watched instruction going on... heard all this same ****... some times you would just think that someone would ask "why?"...


I disagree Mr. Srambled Egg,

The main problem with dads coaching is their tactics for motivation and discipline skills eliminate the chance for any player to absorb physical skills.

Give me the dad who teaches poor mechanics yet understands the mental aspect of motivation and discipline and how it relates to different age groups.

After all that is said and done..............

Understanding what is most important with the involvment in the game of baseball vital.
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Originally posted by swingdoctor14:
Thanks guys for the input. And as far as DVD's ~ that was in the hopper already as well. I think the most eye opening event I have seen in my 2 months of "select life" is the screaming and demeaning of 10 & 11 year olds. How in the world can you expect them to play after you have crushed them in front of their friends as well as family? Holding a runner on 1st with men on 1st and 2nd. Holding a runner on 3B. There is absolutly NO ONE backing up every throw. These are fundementals that need to be learned at an early age. Before you start that there are more fundementals than that ~ I understand. I just don't like to type.
I took this job with the understanding with all the parents that these kids would play every position on the field with the exception of lefties. They have not been the same batting order in 17 games. Mr. Cleanup has hit in the 9 hole like everybody else and when it's his time to sit he does. They have learned to be TEAM MATES. You ought to see the worst player's face when he looks at the line up and sees he leading off and pitching. It's been an eye opening experience for all of us. Parents-players-coaches.
More on this later.


I knew you would be good with young players, but I have to say, I am impressed that you have gotten some of your parents to buy into developing players and not winning at all costs. But, if you keep winning tournaments, I guess it will be hard for them to say much. Smile

Good luck, and I think your idea is very worth while.
Despite my handle ~ changing these kids swing is the last thing on my list concerning my quest to educate coaches. It has to do with teaching kids about the game and how to be a team mate all the while getting better everyday and understanding how the game should be played. Screaming accross the park at Little Bobby and demeaning him, so everyone in the stands knows that Coach knows how it should have been played, is not the way to get it done. Yelling at umpires over every little mistake they make is useless. Learning to overcome these mistakes is something they can take with them for life as well as learning not to blame others. These kids will be Dads - Husbands - Grandfathers - etc. at a much higher percantage than professional baseball players. Teach them how to be young MEN.
The wins will take care of themselves.
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Originally posted by swingdoctor14:
Despite my handle ~ changing these kids swing is the last thing on my list concerning my quest to educate coaches. It has to do with teaching kids about the game and how to be a team mate all the while getting better everyday and understanding how the game should be played. Screaming accross the park at Little Bobby and demeaning him, so everyone in the stands knows that Coach knows how it should have been played, is not the way to get it done. Yelling at umpires over every little mistake they make is useless. Learning to overcome these mistakes is something they can take with them for life as well as learning not to blame others. These kids will be Dads - Husbands - Grandfathers - etc. at a much higher percantage than professional baseball players. Teach them how to be young MEN.
The wins will take care of themselves.


This weekend I will attend my college alumni game. I feel forever fortunate to have played under one of the greatest men I've ever known....Pat Malcheski.

During my playing days, there were times I didn't understand why he would let somethings happen when I knew it was wrong in regards to mechanics, concepts, or technique...........

Each year, when the last game was over, I remember the things he would leave us with. Especially this, as he would say..........

"Boys, I don't care if you ever excel in this game. There are two things that you boys can do that will make me more proud than any baseball accomplishment you ever recieve. If you live to become good husbands and good fathers, those are the only two things I care for you to accomplish."

For whatever reason, these words have stuck with me more than any other advice I've ever recieved.

When the vast majority of parents out there realize that the game of baseball is so much more than mechanics, accomplishments, or venues.............Then and only then will their children gain the most they possibly can from this sport.
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Originally posted by swingdoctor14:
Despite my handle ~ changing these kids swing is the last thing on my list concerning my quest to educate coaches. It has to do with teaching kids about the game and how to be a team mate all the while getting better everyday and understanding how the game should be played. Screaming accross the park at Little Bobby and demeaning him, so everyone in the stands knows that Coach knows how it should have been played, is not the way to get it done. Yelling at umpires over every little mistake they make is useless. Learning to overcome these mistakes is something they can take with them for life as well as learning not to blame others. These kids will be Dads - Husbands - Grandfathers - etc. at a much higher percantage than professional baseball players. Teach them how to be young MEN.
The wins will take care of themselves.

My five and ten year-olds are playing fall ball in MBI and I have seen all of this first hand. Not to mention the parents coaching from the stands and so much more. Makes me miss 18u ball. I guess by that age a lot of the whackos are weeded out. And I mean whackos in a nice way. Smile

All the same, it's fun to watch my boys play and they are both fortunate to be on teams this fall with coaches that teach and know the game. However, one of them gets me as coach in the spring. Poor kid...... Big Grin
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