I am wondering what contact is allowed for a junior on September 1st when it is a quiet period.
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'The college coach may not have any in-person contact with you or your parents off the college's campus. The coach may not watch you play or visit your high school during this period. You and your parents may visit a college campus during this time. A coach may write or telephone you or your parents during this time.'
Thank you so much for the information! We are still trying to figure it all out.
I could be wrong, but I believe that coaches can write or e-mail, but they are not allowed to call until July 1 after Junior year...Player can call the coach at any time, but the coach can't call back if the player leaves a message...
quote:Originally posted by 2014Prospect:
Thank you so much for the information! We are still trying to figure it all out.
We are too. I have spent 2 years on this website and it is very helpful. I just took the quote above from an old thread.
2014Prospect - I've said this before on here and I will say it again. Don't get too wrapped up on what may (or may not) happen on September 1.
Through 2 sons who currently or did play high-D1 baseball...September 1 came and went as a very quiet day.
In the end, September 1 meant nothing...at all.
Through 2 sons who currently or did play high-D1 baseball...September 1 came and went as a very quiet day.
In the end, September 1 meant nothing...at all.
You might also get some emails on September 2-4 with the subject "Sept 1 email". We thought that was kinda funny. 
9/1 is also 40 man roster day in mlb lets see if any of our family gets the call
Aleebaba is quoting the definition of a Quiet Period.
TurnTwoNet is correct - a junior can't receive a call from a Div. I coach until the July 1 following junior year.
Sept. 1 is the first day that Div. I coaches can write or e-mail prospects.
Div. II can start calling or sending e-mails or letters on June 15 following a prospects sophomore year.
TurnTwoNet is correct - a junior can't receive a call from a Div. I coach until the July 1 following junior year.
Sept. 1 is the first day that Div. I coaches can write or e-mail prospects.
Div. II can start calling or sending e-mails or letters on June 15 following a prospects sophomore year.
While I don't want to put too much importance on it, 2014 receieved 3 emails today.. a major D1, a mid-level and a low- level D1.
Basically outlining the rules of contact and trying to get him over for a vist. It was much different from the other emails he has gotten prior.
In one eamil it said to call the coach, and if he does not answer to keep calling, because he cannot return the missed calls. Went on to say that he wants to build a relationship with 2014 and parents, talked about the school, said he wants to set up a visit to attend a practice and tour the campus. I can assume they are serious.......
Basically outlining the rules of contact and trying to get him over for a vist. It was much different from the other emails he has gotten prior.
In one eamil it said to call the coach, and if he does not answer to keep calling, because he cannot return the missed calls. Went on to say that he wants to build a relationship with 2014 and parents, talked about the school, said he wants to set up a visit to attend a practice and tour the campus. I can assume they are serious.......
quote:Originally posted by bacdorslider:
While I don't want to put too much importance on it, 2014 receieved 3 emails today.. a major D1, a mid-level and a low- level D1.
Basically outling the rules of contact and trying to get him over for a vist.
Good stuff! Good luck moving forward.
quote:Originally posted by bacdorslider:
While I don't want to put too much importance on it, 2014 receieved 3 emails today.. a major D1, a mid-level and a low- level D1.
Basically outlining the rules of contact and trying to get him over for a vist. It was much different from the other emails he has gotten prior.
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Very nice ! Even though it's early in the process and anything can happen, it's still cool to receive these emails
My son was fortunate to receive eleven of these emails on September 1st.They were all from D-1 schools and the breakdown was like this :
Pac 12 : 1
WCC :1
Big West : 1
ACC : 1
Missouri Valley : 2
Ivy : 2
Big East: 1
Metro Atlantic: 1
Mid American :1
Some of these schools saw my son play at The Stanford 2014 Future Stars,and a couple saw him play at The SoCal Cup.However,ALL of these colleges received a spring/summer update from my son back in early June.In fact, I helped him send out over 400 of these updates.The updates included academic info from the 2011/12 school year,baseball info from the 2012 high school season,video links,berecruited profile link,summer team schedule with coaches names and where they played,and summer showcase and camps with links.
He received many responses from this effort.The D-3 and NAIA schools had more personalized responses ,while the D-1 and D-2 schools sent prospect camp info.He replied to each camp invite. Even though he was not able to attend their camps,he replied with another guick update to the next event he would be participating in.Also,when Stanford sent him the links to his batting cage work(which really highlighted his bat speed and power), he sent those links to all of the coaches. That generated a lot of response
Also,he will be sending out his fall update in a few weeks which will include the classes he's taking,SAT test date,and The Arizona Fall Junior Classic link.We sent this many updates to all levels of college baseball since I truly don't know where he'll end up playing.I helped him cast a wide net to see what kind of response there would be.In a perfect world, he would play at one of his favorites here in California.However,as many of you have pointed out on this site, there are more players than available roster spots here in California.In fact,four 2012 players from my son's high school team last season,are now playing for D-1 colleges outside of California.
The baseball world is a small and well connected one. My son found that out with a few of the colleges he sent updates to.In the updates he included his summer coach's name and where his coach played.It turns out that 3 of the coaches that he sent emails to either played in college or in the minors with his summer coach! They responded with longer and more personalized emails since they were friends of my son's coach
This put him on their radar immediately.One of the emails he received on Sept.1st was from a coach who was a teammate and roommate of my son's summer coach ! It's a school that's in my son's top 5 and is in the Bay Area near Apple Computer
The advice and tips on this site really do work ! That's where I learned this stuff !
Wow, after reading your email, I feel should be **** more. He answers everything we get and try to explain why we cannot come, or that plan on attending with an updated schedule, results to date.
He has 4 now....
SEC 1
Big South 1
ACC 1
Sun Belt 1
It's nice but we still have a long way to go.
He has 4 now....
SEC 1
Big South 1
ACC 1
Sun Belt 1
It's nice but we still have a long way to go.
Bacdorslider-
You're fine. Don't worry about it and try not to let your son know if you are worrying about it. Things will fall into place. It's still early.
You're fine. Don't worry about it and try not to let your son know if you are worrying about it. Things will fall into place. It's still early.
quote:Originally posted by smalltownmom:
Bacdorslider-
You're fine. Don't worry about it and try not to let your son know if you are worrying about it. Things will fall into place. It's still early.
Thanks for giving him that advice, he doesn't listen.
Folks, this is sept 1, a lot can change, this is how the courting begins.
In the end, it's not how many coaches have contacted your son, but if the right one did. Start doing your homework on the contacts (with your son), if it might be a good fit or not for your player.
thanks for the advice....I think we are 'b' right now
My son received 11 emails on Saturday. We are cautiously optomistic. 6 of them were from SEC and ACC schools and the others were mid-major. 4 of them were from schools that he has had personal phone conversations with the recruiter.
Can anyone from the 2013 class give us a sense for what the emails really mean and how they have played out for them? It would be great to think that the Gamecocks want my kid when they say to come for a football game, but it came at 12:03am.
Can anyone from the 2013 class give us a sense for what the emails really mean and how they have played out for them? It would be great to think that the Gamecocks want my kid when they say to come for a football game, but it came at 12:03am.
mifdaddy-"cautiously optimistic" is a good thing to be right now. Getting the emails is better than not getting them, but it doesn't necessarily mean your son is one of their top recruits...yet! The coaches can have their computers send emails at whatever times so don't get too hung up on the times they were sent. However, personal invitations to campus are encouraging and a great way for you and your son to evaluate fit do as many as you reasonably can. We found,however, that most of the schools that were super-interested (getting close to offering) started calling his travel and high school coach to tell son to call them back. Tell your son to keep working hard and continue to keep in close contact with all the coaches that contacted him. It sounds like he's going to have a fun recruiting journey!
Thanks for everyone's input on this. Excellent posts and lots of good advice from those that have been there.Congrats to everyone whose son received an email !
Now the real work begins.Trying to find the elusive perfect fit. I asked my son what is the most important thing you are looking for in a school.His reply was " I want to go where I have an opportunity to compete for a starting position as a freshman".Looks like that will be our starting point in this journey.He wants to major in the Sports Medicine field,and prefers to stay here in California,or Oregon,Washington,and Arizona.
Selfishly, my wife and I hope he's able to stay here in California.He's our only child and I've never missed a baseball game of his... Always been there for him. That will be hard on me !
Now the real work begins.Trying to find the elusive perfect fit. I asked my son what is the most important thing you are looking for in a school.His reply was " I want to go where I have an opportunity to compete for a starting position as a freshman".Looks like that will be our starting point in this journey.He wants to major in the Sports Medicine field,and prefers to stay here in California,or Oregon,Washington,and Arizona.
Selfishly, my wife and I hope he's able to stay here in California.He's our only child and I've never missed a baseball game of his... Always been there for him. That will be hard on me !
quote:bobbyaguho said...Now the real work begins.Trying to find the elusive perfect fit. I asked my son what is the most important thing you are looking for in a school.His reply was " I want to go where I have an opportunity to compete for a starting position as a freshman".Looks like that will be our starting point in this journey.He wants to major in the Sports Medicine field,and prefers to stay here in California,or Oregon,Washington,and Arizona
bobbyaguho,
My two cents...Sometimes it can be a lot easier to find that fit if your son is sure about what he wants, and sometimes not. Your son sounds like he is very clear on what he wants. However, it can be a double-edged sword. Finding a starting position as a freshmen in CA at just about any level is a tall order from what I've read from others on this site for many years. My son eventually opened up the geography considerably (from VA to Mid-Atlantic to East Coast) due to his major and similiar playing requirements as your son. I don't know about your son, but mine would not compromise on his major or opportunity to start. If your son is similiarly stubborn (good thing), then you may need to add some states in your search.
If you find you're not getting the desired results & rsponses in your geography, don't be afraid to open it up to include more states. Good luck.
Can anyone from the 2013 class give us a sense for what the emails really mean and how they have played out for them? It would be great to think that the Gamecocks want my kid when they say to come for a football game, but it came at 12:03am.
Hard to say what each email really means.....My son is a 2013 and we read some of the emails many times trying to figure it out to no avail. I would say that I found that there were three types of emails.
1. Camp Interest. College saw my son play somewhere or got his email and want him to attend their camp. This is fishing on their part using a very wide net. Perhaps may be mostly interested in your wallet yet junior responded to each of these emails.In some cases developed a relationship with RC.
2. Warm interest. Receiving personal emails asking him to call them and or invites to a football game and or Junior Day. In these cases I think the interest was very real yet they were not ready to pull the trigger for an early offer or they do not make offers until after junior year transcripts are seen. They liked him alot but want to see more during his HS junior year and/or summer team before making an offer.
3. Hot interest. This is where the RC is emailing often, very personal,perhaps they want you to visit and meet with HC one on one. Son had a few of these with offers fall of Jr year and during winter. Son could get a sense from the calls as to how high their interest was. Some schools reached out to his HS head coach for more info.
Regarding football game visits they can mean many different things.Son had offers for quite a few and went on 3 of these. They were very different in how they were handled by each school. The 1st was an ACC school with 4 other players. It seemed as though the 5 invitees were their hand picked 5 they wanted to sign with the amount of attention they gave. As it turned out he did not hear back from the school until the following June. They lost interest or found someone they felt was a better player during the winter. In hindsight the school probably brought in 5 kids each weekend?
The whole process is like a marketing project with your son ultimately trying to find his best fit. In our case as he worked through his junior year he continued to narrow down the school(s) that was the best fit for him academically and athletically. As it narrowed he made sure the schools in which he was most interested would have a chance to see him play.
There are ebbs and flows(highs and lows) during the process. Some schools that saw him at camps after soph year that said they realy liked him but did not reach out until May/June of his Junior year. Each school has their own recruiting process and timeline, some have an early start date and others get after it much later. Like others from these boards have said before, create your list of schools and keep refining it and try to get in front of those in which he is most interested.
Good Luck!! The game at SC should be a blast. Great memories for you and your boy. Enjoy!!
Hard to say what each email really means.....My son is a 2013 and we read some of the emails many times trying to figure it out to no avail. I would say that I found that there were three types of emails.
1. Camp Interest. College saw my son play somewhere or got his email and want him to attend their camp. This is fishing on their part using a very wide net. Perhaps may be mostly interested in your wallet yet junior responded to each of these emails.In some cases developed a relationship with RC.
2. Warm interest. Receiving personal emails asking him to call them and or invites to a football game and or Junior Day. In these cases I think the interest was very real yet they were not ready to pull the trigger for an early offer or they do not make offers until after junior year transcripts are seen. They liked him alot but want to see more during his HS junior year and/or summer team before making an offer.
3. Hot interest. This is where the RC is emailing often, very personal,perhaps they want you to visit and meet with HC one on one. Son had a few of these with offers fall of Jr year and during winter. Son could get a sense from the calls as to how high their interest was. Some schools reached out to his HS head coach for more info.
Regarding football game visits they can mean many different things.Son had offers for quite a few and went on 3 of these. They were very different in how they were handled by each school. The 1st was an ACC school with 4 other players. It seemed as though the 5 invitees were their hand picked 5 they wanted to sign with the amount of attention they gave. As it turned out he did not hear back from the school until the following June. They lost interest or found someone they felt was a better player during the winter. In hindsight the school probably brought in 5 kids each weekend?
The whole process is like a marketing project with your son ultimately trying to find his best fit. In our case as he worked through his junior year he continued to narrow down the school(s) that was the best fit for him academically and athletically. As it narrowed he made sure the schools in which he was most interested would have a chance to see him play.
There are ebbs and flows(highs and lows) during the process. Some schools that saw him at camps after soph year that said they realy liked him but did not reach out until May/June of his Junior year. Each school has their own recruiting process and timeline, some have an early start date and others get after it much later. Like others from these boards have said before, create your list of schools and keep refining it and try to get in front of those in which he is most interested.
Good Luck!! The game at SC should be a blast. Great memories for you and your boy. Enjoy!!
BBoy 400,
Thanks for breaking it down for us newbees! September 1st was completly confusing for us. My son played for one coach at a camp over the summer who asked our son to call. Our son has had a couple of conversations with the coach but on Sept. 1st there was no recruiting email from this school(he was very disappointed, he likes the coach and the school alot). My son called the coach today because the coach asked him to "keep in touch" and they talked again, and the coach said "keep in touch" again, but there was no mention of a future at this school.
Over the weekend there were four recruiting emails from really amazing schools that we thought were way out of our son's reach. One email said "I saw you play this summer and have been waiting to be able to communicate with you." One said "We are beginning the recruiting process with you and you will receive many emails explaining our program" and one said "we are interested in you and are pleased to begin the recruiting process with you" and then went on to explain the merits of their program. All four schools requested questionnaires and transcripts.
Sorry if we are slow at this, but would you rank these communications at the "camp level" or "warm interet level" or maybe somewhere in between. They certainly are not invitations to visit or attend a football game.
Thanks for breaking it down for us newbees! September 1st was completly confusing for us. My son played for one coach at a camp over the summer who asked our son to call. Our son has had a couple of conversations with the coach but on Sept. 1st there was no recruiting email from this school(he was very disappointed, he likes the coach and the school alot). My son called the coach today because the coach asked him to "keep in touch" and they talked again, and the coach said "keep in touch" again, but there was no mention of a future at this school.
Over the weekend there were four recruiting emails from really amazing schools that we thought were way out of our son's reach. One email said "I saw you play this summer and have been waiting to be able to communicate with you." One said "We are beginning the recruiting process with you and you will receive many emails explaining our program" and one said "we are interested in you and are pleased to begin the recruiting process with you" and then went on to explain the merits of their program. All four schools requested questionnaires and transcripts.
Sorry if we are slow at this, but would you rank these communications at the "camp level" or "warm interet level" or maybe somewhere in between. They certainly are not invitations to visit or attend a football game.
quote:Originally posted by 2014Prospect:
BBoy 400,
Thanks for breaking it down for us newbees! September 1st was completly confusing for us. My son played for one coach at a camp over the summer who asked our son to call. Our son has had a couple of conversations with the coach but on Sept. 1st there was no recruiting email from this school(he was very disappointed, he likes the coach and the school alot). My son called the coach today because the coach asked him to "keep in touch" and they talked again, and the coach said "keep in touch" again, but there was no mention of a future at this school.
Over the weekend there were four recruiting emails from really amazing schools that we thought were way out of our son's reach. One email said "I saw you play this summer and have been waiting to be able to communicate with you." One said "We are beginning the recruiting process with you and you will receive many emails explaining our program" and one said "we are interested in you and are pleased to begin the recruiting process with you" and then went on to explain the merits of their program. All four schools requested questionnaires and transcripts.
Sorry if we are slow at this, but would you rank these communications at the "camp level" or "warm interet level" or maybe somewhere in between. They certainly are not invitations to visit or attend a football game.
My son's serious college recruitment began about 10 years ago. Guess what, he got snail mail but regardless it was exactly the same type of wording!
I would consider it warm interest. However, do not leave any stone unturned and reply to as many programs as you can as that warm can turn to hot.
Don't spend too much time trying to read into all of this. You may not believe me, but you WILL know the difference between serious interest and that which is considered warm.
14prospect,
Sounds like warm interest.Thats great!! I would not be disapointed in a school if he has had phone converstions yet did not get an email on Sept 1. They are all on their own time line. Some can be very organized recruiters others no so organized. The school from which son received his 1st offer did not send him an email on Sept 1 yet they had seen him many times prior and we knew they were very interested from him attending their camp as well as other sources. In my sons case most of his interest was warm and almost all the schools wanted to see him play again HS spring and summer of Junior year. Fortunately he worked very hard on his game and in the classroom during his junior year. The best advice I could give is for your son stay in touch with all those in which he has interest(follow up on all emails as so many Recruiting Coordinators move to new schools) and continue to work hard during the off season so that when those schools get out to see him again he is as ready as he can be. Also keep following this board as we received some awesome advice from many(Fenway especially) along the way.
Sounds like warm interest.Thats great!! I would not be disapointed in a school if he has had phone converstions yet did not get an email on Sept 1. They are all on their own time line. Some can be very organized recruiters others no so organized. The school from which son received his 1st offer did not send him an email on Sept 1 yet they had seen him many times prior and we knew they were very interested from him attending their camp as well as other sources. In my sons case most of his interest was warm and almost all the schools wanted to see him play again HS spring and summer of Junior year. Fortunately he worked very hard on his game and in the classroom during his junior year. The best advice I could give is for your son stay in touch with all those in which he has interest(follow up on all emails as so many Recruiting Coordinators move to new schools) and continue to work hard during the off season so that when those schools get out to see him again he is as ready as he can be. Also keep following this board as we received some awesome advice from many(Fenway especially) along the way.
Coaches certainly aren't shrinking violets. So I agree it will become apparent if a coach has serious interest.
If a player/parent really wants to know if an early Sept email is serious, you can respond to the coach by, first, thanking him for showing interest, and then asking what abilities caught his eye and what he thinks you need to improve on.
If he gives what you think is an accurate assessment, then at least you can deduce he has seen the player in person and taken notes. That shows the email isn't just spam. And heck, those are good questions to ask anyway
If a player/parent really wants to know if an early Sept email is serious, you can respond to the coach by, first, thanking him for showing interest, and then asking what abilities caught his eye and what he thinks you need to improve on.
If he gives what you think is an accurate assessment, then at least you can deduce he has seen the player in person and taken notes. That shows the email isn't just spam. And heck, those are good questions to ask anyway
Thank you to everyone for all of the replies. We are so greatful for all of the information and encouragement. Hopefully some day we will be able to give advice and encouragement to those who travel this road after us.
quote:Originally posted by fenwaysouth:
My two cents...Sometimes it can be a lot easier to find that fit if your son is sure about what he wants, and sometimes not. Your son sounds like he is very clear on what he wants. However, it can be a double-edged sword. Finding a starting position as a freshmen in CA at just about any level is a tall order from what I've read from others on this site for many years. My son eventually opened up the geography considerably (from VA to Mid-Atlantic to East Coast) due to his major and similiar playing requirements as your son. I don't know about your son, but mine would not compromise on his major or opportunity to start. If your son is similiarly stubborn (good thing), then you may need to add some states in your search.
If you find you're not getting the desired results & rsponses in your geography, don't be afraid to open it up to include more states. Good luck.
Thanks Fenway ! We will open up the rest of the country as well