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I know this isn't the right place for this but I am really looking for some advice. Today marked my 3rd different attempt at the stage of 120 feet in my throwing program and yet again I wasn't able to complete it. I know many of the people on this site have had experience with prior surgeries but is there anyone who has experience with this many setbacks. Two days ago marked 7 months post surgery and I'm really struggling on the road back. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Play pitch by pitch. You can't lose a game on one pitch and you sure as hell can't win it on one pitch.

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Is pain holding you back or are you just not reaching the distance? I'm no expert in this but I'm thinking you should be able to be at this distance by now. My two pieces of advice would be to talk to JH about his progress because I think both of you are in the same neighborhood of recovery timeline. The second piece is go back to the doctor and see if there is something holding you back that way.

Hope you find out quickly what's going on and get it worked out.
Coach,
I think your guidance on getting back to the orthopedist could well be right, but for a very different reason than JH.
JH is a TJ surgery.
junior05 is labrum/shoulder as I recall.
They are so different.
junior05, hopefully bulldog19 will post and provide much more specific and precise information.
What is not known is the ROM for your shoulder. Do you have full ROM in all planes and measurements for the shoulder?
Do you have full strength recovery in all planes and motions?
Full range of motion and getting close to or at 100% strength is so important in labral/shoulder recovery.
If your measurements and/or strength are not very, very close to 100%, then you need more PT and shoulder rehab. That might result in disruption of the throwing program, but maybe not.
If you are 100% on ROM and strength, and it is pain and/or a sense of weakness on the throwing rehab, I would suggest getting back to the surgeon and/or a 2nd opinion and perhaps an MRI,perhaps with contrast. There could be scar tissue build up, a recurrent tear, impingement, some combination.
There could also be a clean bill of health and you just need more patience, PT, shoulder strengthening, ROM development and throwing rehab.
So much is communicated about being able to recover from labrum surgery and be throwing at or close to 100% within 5-7 months. I am sure there are some, but many just require a lot longer.
I think the trainer at school, a PT and perhaps a return to the surgeon will be far more helpful than our postings.
The ROM in all shoulder planes and shoulder strength in all planes is the basic starting point. If you are not nearly 100%, then the focus needs to be on those to be able to advance in the throwing rehab.
Good luck.
We are hoping for the best for you.
junior5- I have two teammates, a RHP and a catcher, both of whom had slap repairs and are at different stages. One has had issues with biceps tendonitis, the other an impingement on the shoulder capsule which limits his external ROM. I've found that they are a bit inconsistent with their throwing and thus grow frustrated and discouraged with their progression.

Although infielddad is correct, my situation and yours are very different, I can try to help in whatever way possible. I can't empathize with your current predicament because I have not had any setbacks in my recovery and I don't have shoulder problems. However, I would be more than happy to get you in contact with my teammates so you can speak with them and possibly gain some advice and some comfort through an exchange.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do. Elbows and shoulders are completely different animals, but if you need an emotional pick-me-up don't hesitate to reach out to me. It's not an easy process and someone should never have to go through it alone.
Thanks to everyone who gave me some imformation. I have my ROM back along with strength I just start feeling pain during that 120 feet mark. Everything up to that point feels good. I have no issue getting the ball that distance I just can't make it through the 2 sets of 25 throws without pain. The hardest part for me to deal with is the success i'm having with my swing and non throwing parts of the game. The plan is to talk to my physical therapist who I have been seeing since the issues first started and also talk to my doctor. Thanks for everything
For now, all you can do is trust your MD and PT. Recovery and rehab vary greatly from player to player. There is no such thing as a "typical" recovery. Many doctors will tell you that setbacks are to be expected. Sometimes it's two steps forward, one step back. Don't let the setbacks get you down.
This site has been incredible!
I posted a similar post on the our injury and recovery thread basically explaining the same thing.

Funny how father and son go imediately to HSBBW for guidance.

The feedback I see really helps me get through this process and I think junior5 feels the same way.

THANKS again to everyone who takes the time to reply.
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junior05, hopefully bulldog19 will post and provide much more specific and precise information.


Thanks infielddad for the shout-out! Wink

I think MTH has it right. There is no such thing as the "perfect recovery" or even a "typical recovery." With that said, it's difficult for me to go into much detail since you're not standing here in front of me.

I did see a kid back in November months after his labral repair. He was a baseball player/wrestler who had surgery in April/May and then did a full bout of physical therapy with our staff. But within the first week of wrestling, he started having pain and ended up going back to the orthopedic surgeon. He re-started PT for shoulder strengthening, but I don't know where he's at now.

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I had a conversation a few weeks ago with a colleague of mine about shoulders and elbows. To a large degree, the rehabilitation of them are fairly similar especially if we're going to talk about a baseball player. You are going to have some differences due to the variety of muscles present, but the motion of throwing is so complex that looking it as a "shoulder injury" or an "elbow injury" just sets us up for trouble.


I don't want to step on the PT's toes, but my suggestion is to ask about the elbow and the opposite hip. Maybe that individual has already addressed those two places and maybe they have addressed other places. Or maybe they have restricted themselves to your post-op shoulder only.

Junior5, feel free to contact me via PM if you have specific questions and I'll try to answer them as best as I can..

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