Should private schools participate in UIL play-offs?

Personally, I don't have a problem with it. Jesuit has competed well in most sports, but they haven't dominated. The formula for the classification seems appropriate.

I say bring them in, it will make for more interesting competition!

Well, let's see, public schools compete with the players that live in their attendance zones. Private schools can recruit anyone and compete with a team of players from, literally, the entire planet.

Sounds fair, right?

First off, I know that not many private schools want to join the UiL.

Most can not abide by the UiL guidelines in regards to use of part time coaches and attendance zones.

The THSCA has a very powerful lobby in Austin, this will not get done. It may move through the house, but it will not see the light of day in the Senate.

The school I ended up going to was the only one whose baseball coach I hadn't talked to previously (out of the those I applied to) before being accepting and subsequently accepting to go there.

Private schools can recruit anyone and compete with a team of players from, literally, the entire planet.

Sounds fair, right?

This isn't true because Jesuit can't recruit kids. Even if we could recruit kids, many people have a problem paying $14,000 a year for high school. (At least my parents do, I hear about it quite often) But the idea of recruiting is the reason that it took 19 years for Jesuit to be finally accepted into the UIL. There are a couple of terms that we (Jesuit) had to agree with in order for us to enter. The one agreement that I am positive about is that we have to compete at the highest level (5A) and if and when 6A is created we will have to compete at that level. Even though we are the second smallest school in 5A.(I think maybe smallest?)

That recruiting nonsense would stop. Under UiL rules those "transfers" would have to sit out a year to establish eligibility unless the private school was in their attendance zone.

Even still, the public school would have to sign off on their PAPF (Previous Athletic Participation Form) saying that they were not recruited and did not leave for athletic purposes.

How many public schools will sign off on that PAPF?????????

If you think some cheesy UIL transfer rules are going to stop recruiting, you are living in a fantasy world. Plus, around here the best of the best move before entering high school.

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Originally posted by highschoolplayer:
Private schools can recruit anyone and compete with a team of players from, literally, the entire planet.

Sounds fair, right?

This isn't true because Jesuit can't recruit kids. Even if we could recruit kids, many people have a problem paying $14,000 a year for high school. (At least my parents do, I hear about it quite often) But the idea of recruiting is the reason that it took 19 years for Jesuit to be finally accepted into the UIL. There are a couple of terms that we (Jesuit) had to agree with in order for us to enter. The one agreement that I am positive about is that we have to compete at the highest level (5A) and if and when 6A is created we will have to compete at that level. Even though we are the second smallest school in 5A.(I think maybe smallest?)

What about the possibility of scholarships? What if the recruitted player was offered a "hardship" scholarship or a "discounted" scholarship? This already happens in States where public and private schools interlock. Be careful, it's a slippery slope.....

If this passes I wonder if the Dallas Tigers and DBATS might start their own private schools?

Just saw this AP report. If it is accurate, the reason this bill is coming forward is to help a private school join UIL because TAPPS kicked them out. Talk about recruiting. Read this. The full article is at http://www.christianpost.com/article/20070504/27242_Tex...hool_Competition.htm
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Texas Megachurch Backing Bill to OK Public, Private School Competition
By Jim Vertuno
AP Sports Writer

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A politically powerful megachurch in San Antonio is pushing Texas lawmakers to let its small Christian school with a history of bending the rules to field elite athletic teams join the state league for public schools.

A proposal by Sen. Dan Patrick, R-Houston, to allow private schools to join the University Interscholastic League, the dominion of the state's public schools, passed the Senate late last month. A similar measure by Rep. Frank Corte, R-San Antonio, is pending in the House.

The church behind the push is Cornerstone Christian Church, founded in 1975 by televangelist John Hagee, whose television and radio programs are broadcast throughout the U.S.

The Cornerstone Christian school has been in trouble several times in recent years with the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools over concerns about how it put together basketball squads that included several out-of-state and international players.

While the bills would allow other private schools to apply to the UIL, there's little doubt Cornerstone is driving the proposed change. Cornerstone religious and administrative leaders were the only ones to testify in support of the Senate bill.
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Essentially banished from TAPPS in September 2006, Cornerstone applied for entry to the UIL and was denied. The school then filed a federal religious discrimination lawsuit to force its way in.
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UIL Athletic Director Charles Breithaupt said public schools are happy to play regular season games against private schools, but don't want them competing for the same championships. "Private schools have to recruit. That's their nature," Breithaupt said. "They have to open their doors and invite people to come in. They can be as big or small as they want to be."

The church school has played hardball in athletics and has gotten in trouble for it. It first ran into trouble with TAPPS when it recruited five Mexican players, including future NBA player Eduardo Najera, for the 1994-95 season.
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Jesuit... unlike many private schools doesnt recruit. Our school isnt so easy that a kid failing public school goes there so they can pass...

we keep academics first, and if you dont have the grades you arent getting into the school regardless of your talents. The only financial aid that is given (besides winning of an academic scholarship) is through a work grant program in which you work at jesuit painting cleaning etc and your tuition is paid through that..

so dont bunch all private schools together...

hsp- I don't think Jesuit is THAT much.