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I mean if it wasn't for him our kids who are growing up now wouldn't be playing on a level playing field. For that I thank him. Most may say, " he was a rat". But, he really got the public and major league baseball for that matter to take notice. The press garnered from the book snowballed into something MLB didn't expect.

Sure he was in it for the money but for some reason when no one that was mentioned in the book threatened to sue him I myself was wondering what the heck was going on. On a personal note I was able to see many WinterBaseball games in Puerto Rico. I saw Juan Gonzalez go from a big well trimmed Outfielder into a huge monster. I couldn't believe what he turned into in a span of 12 months. Well now I know!
- "Any time you have an opportunity to make a difference in this world and you don't, then you are wasting your time on Earth"." - Roberto Clemente
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I tried to buy the book for my brother-in-law for Christmas (my husband doesn't want it in our house...but knew brother-in-law would appreciate it)...anyway....not a copy to be had.....sold out everywhere.....

There was a similar thread on this subject.....and most posters seemed to agree.....he wrote the book for the money....he did not have honorable intentions....

But, IMO, he ended up doing a good thing....despite himself!
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You have to respect a man for telling the truth at a time when the truth needed to be told and nobody else would do it. He admitted to using steroids and accused others of doing so long before his book came out and nobody took him seriously. C'mon, who actually believe Rafael Palmero used steroids?

As far as I'm concered, Jose Conseco is one of the most credible people in baseball at this point, even though he isn't "in" baseball.
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Everyone one after Roger Maris is suspect in my opinion for the record books. Sure there have been some great players but how far is this fame supported with Vitiman B-12 shots or other better living through chemistry. I may think old school but guys like Jeter and A-Rod are the clean cut role models (clean is subjective but I believe they are) for kids today. Canseco believes there is no problem with this enhancement. Is he a hero; no way. He is tainted by greed and a lifestyle. Long live the 50 game suspension.
Canseco gets no respect from me. Not that he's a rat, but because he did it for the money.....plain and simple.

Originally, he spilled his guts, to lash out at MLB, due to the fact no team would touch him with a 10ft pole. He was a joke, at best. He reminds me of the old baseball clowns. He just wasn't as funny.

As always, these are simply my opinions...which cost nothing, while having even less value.

Be good,
David
Jose canseco web site

http://www.josecanseco.com/


BASEBALL OWES CANSECO FOR STEROIDS CRACKDOWN!

Nov. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Bud Selig should be grateful for many things this holiday season -- especially a man he wouldn't even think of inviting to Thanksgiving dinner. With that in mind, I wonder who the commissioner of Major League Baseball might deem worthy of a thank you for helping to rid his clubhouses of bulked-up cheaters. After years of ignoring the rampant use of performance- enhancing drugs in his homer happy league, Selig can at long last trumpet a strict steroids policy that mandates expulsion after a third offense. Surely Selig will pass along his appreciation to members of the U.S. Congress, whose blustering and threats forced the most powerful union in professional sports to give in the commissioner's every demand. That's where admitted steroid user Jose Canseco comes in. Selig and the bigwigs at league headquarters are fond of saying that Cal Ripken's chase of Lou Gehrig's consecutive games record and the 1998 home run race between Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire saved baseball. Don't bet on it. Canseco, by naming names and urging Congress to take action against steroids, has done more to protect the integrity of baseball than Selig himself. And yet, no one associated with the sport has ever called Canseco to express the league's indebtedness for his pivotal role in the cleanup. Keeping It Quiet ``It would kill them to say thank you for bringing it to light or to acknowledge that Jose did anything right,'' said Rob Saunooke, Canseco's lawyer. ``The reality is that if Jose had not come out and said what he did, no one would have known. Baseball would have done nothing.'' Does anyone dispute that? Would baseball's not-so-little secret have been limited to Balco, a San Francisco area outfit that was at the center of a scandal involving athletes and steroids, Barry Bonds and Jason Giambi had Canseco not told the world that he and McGwire injected steroids together and that almost everyone was doing it? Would Rafael Palmeiro, who in March defiantly wagged his finger at a congressional panel while denying that he ever used steroids, have been suspended for testing positive for using performance-enhancing drugs? Would baseball have a new anti-steroid policy that calls for a 50-game suspension for a first positive test, 100 for a second slip-up and a farewell for a third? Schilling's Accusations Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling at the congressional hearing publicly labeled Canseco a liar, accusing him of destroying the reputations of innocent people in an attempt to peddle more books. Perhaps Schilling was angered by Canseco's willingness to disclose locker-room secrets. Among professional athletes, broadcasting the workings of the inner sanctum is just about the worst transgression there is. ``Jose will never admit this, but he is so hurt by the fact that people in baseball look at him so negatively,'' Saunooke says. ``There's definitely resentment that he disclosed the truth.'' So let's get this straight. Bonds, whose 708 home runs are third on the all-time list behind Hank Aaron's 755 and Babe Ruth's 714, can get away with saying that if, ahem, he used steroids he didn't know it. Sosa can get caught using a corked bat, apologize for the so-called mistake, and return with his integrity intact. Palmeiro can test positive for steroids, say he doesn't know how it could've happened, and then point the finger at teammate Miguel Tejada and his vitamin B-12 booster shot. And Canseco is the bad guy. Deserved Thanks Congressman Dutch Ruppersberger doesn't think so. The Maryland Democrat was the only person to publicly thank Canseco for helping to spur the crackdown on doping in baseball. Saunooke was so touched by the congressman's comments that he wrote Ruppersberger a letter of appreciation. ``As you can imagine, my client has endured endless attacks to his person, family, credibility, and others,'' Saunooke's letter reads. ``How refreshing it was to have an objective person put everything into perspective. Your short statement did more to renew my client's faith in the system than you can possibly imagine.'' As a player, Canseco hit 462 home runs, ranking 26th all- time. He was the American League's Most Valuable Player with the Oakland Athletics in 1988, when he became the first player in major league history with at least 40 home runs and 40 stolen bases in the same season. As a steroids whistleblower, he was even better. Scott Soshnick bloomberg.net
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Observer,

They were all cheaters and liars - including Canseco.

At least Canseco and Giambi finally told the truth. The others either lied - or took the 5th.

I think the only good thing that came out of it
is that MLB has improved their drug policy. I still think it is way too lenient - but it certainly has improved. And that will help many young players - and hopefully save many young lives.

As for anything Shilling says - I dont even listen anymore - the guy has changed his story so many times I dont even remember what version he is currently on.
observer

I for one have had no respect for Canseco after he tried to run down his wife on a Miami street.

Canseco come clean-- only for his book and since he was out of baseball and broke--while on probation prior to the book publication he got nailed with drugs in his house. everything he does is well calculated for the press and public reading consumption.

As for the others they are what they are--"supposed" steroid users-- in my book Canseco would turn in his parents if it meant publicity and money for him.

JMO
Ozzie Canseco Looking to Finally Emerge from Jose’s Shadow
by Dan Hanzus
SportsPickle.com submission

With his career at a crossroads, former baseball superstar Jose Canseco was hit yesterday with the news that his twin brother, Ozzie, openly criticized his merits as a ballplayer, brother and man.

Jose, 37, signed his second minor league contract in three months last month with the Chicago White Sox. The 1988 American League Most Valuable Player finds himself in the same position that his brother has been in for the better part of the last decade – out of Major League Baseball.

Ozzie, Jose’s older brother by a few minutes, sees this as his opportunity to emerge from his brother’s significant shadow, and has begun selling a line of t-shirts with the catchphrase “Ozzie: The Canseco Who Makes You Say O!” printed on them.

Jose was stunned by his brother’s entrepreneurial endeavor and seemed worried Ozzie’s shirts would overshadow his accomplishments. After being told of his brother’s business venture by his agent, Jose burst into the reporter’s room at Knights Stadium in Charlotte and blurted: “Did you know I was the first 40/40 guy?”

Ozzie, who played in 24 major league games between 1990 and 1993, admitted that he harbors hard feelings towards his twin brother.

“It’s about time he got a dose of his own medicine,” Ozzie said. “I’m sick and tired of living in his shadow. It has always been, “Jose this” and “Jose that.” What about Ozzie, man? What about Ozzie?”

A teary-eyed Ozzie went on, speaking of the emotional abuse he suffered at the hands of his brother during their brief stint together with the Oakland Athletics in 1990.

“He used to call me terribly cruel names. But the worst was Frank Stallone,” referring to the younger and far less bankable brother of the Hollywood star Sylvester. “He used to always call me that, and eventually it even caught on with the guys in the locker room. Do you have any idea what it’s like to have 25 guys calling you Frank Stallone? I felt that maybe because of my limited skills as a ballplayer, I couldn’t ever be his ‘Bash Brother.’”
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The one point that has been constantly missed here, because sport writers no nothing about actually playing the sport, and people are quick to jump on the suspicion band wagon. If I were given an enhancement, such as a bat, or juiced ball, or a drug, and I were a big league hitter who could hit his share of long ones, does that automatically mean that I'm going to get the pitches, and opportunities to hit more home runs. How many feet are we adding because of these enhancements. Is it 25,35,45. If I see a hitter hit many into the first ten rows and his totals have gone up dramatically in the recent past, I would definitely question it. But if a guy is hitting the 450-500 feet, take away the enhancement and maybe he only hits it 400-450 feet. Still a home run. Mcgwire hit 49 as a rookie and only injuries held him down after that. You may say, this guy is naive. How about a level playing field? No one seems to be talking about the fact that between 2000-2003, there were over 150 big league pitchers hitting 96-98 mph. Today there are about 40. In 2000, there were 250+ pitches thrown at over 100 mph, 75 of them by B Wagner. The other 175 were from 38 different pitchers. Last season, there were over 140 100 mph, 65 by B Wagner, 20 by Colon and the rest by 19 other pitchers. This is a continuing trend. Pitchers threw harder, hitters banged 'em farther. There was definitely enhancement. Baseball has decided, like other sports, to pick and choose the illegal enhancements. I hear NO comments on Randy Johnson. He receives an injection of a gel like fluid to his knee before every start or his knee will lock up and he won't be able to pitch. Should this be allowed or is he all done. Oh Yeah, he plays in George's town, the media capitol, and they love the yanks there. This is a media blitz by a bunch of people that lie in waiting for the next athlete or famous person to screw up so that they can have a story and tear apart the fabric of the game. I do highly believe that each sport should have, and should be taking care of drug testing and use of any enhancement. They should also be harsh on the abusers, but That may be really naive of me because there's too much money involved and too much to lose. But thats just my opinion.

Coachric

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