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Just returned from this event in Tampa and thought I'd offer my take on it.

Some details: two day event.  40 head coaches from "high" academic schools. 7/8 Ivies, several Patriot League schools, several A 10 schools, NESCAC, Centennial and other D3s as well.

We chose to go because of the saturation of schools on my 2019's list that were there.  He's attended HF, Stanford, and AZ fall classic as well, so he has some experience to compare events.

SB divides the days into two parts.  Half the kids go to the morning session, half go to the afternoon session, so while there are a lot of kids there it doesn't feel as crowded or intense as HF.  The first day is devoted to typical showcase stuff: 60s, OF and IF defensive drills, bullpens for pitchers and catchers.  BP (two rounds, one against a lefty).  All drills in front of all coaches on Saturday.  At the end of the day all coaches made themselves available to meet the kids. It was not rushed.

Sunday is scrimmage day.  Each team plays two games.  Coaches are divided between two fields.  Kids hit in the order of their jersey #s. Counts start at 1-1.  Each kid got to hit at least 3 times per game.  Coaches umpire and bench and base coach.  Other coaches sit behind a screen about ten feet behind home plate. Numerous radar guns, stop watches and notepads.  Games moved along quickly. Panel Talks between games on the recruiting process by a nice cross section of coaches. Each kid gets a 1-1 verbal eval from one of the head coaches.  My guy's evaluator was Yale head coach.  That was nice.

This event was at IMG Academy so the facilities were beautiful. HF California could learn from this.

Other observations: The last game on Sunday saw some coaches leave early to catch flights.  Not sure it mattered for my guy but that's a reality at these big national showcases on Sunday afternoons.  Coaches want to get home.

Coach access is superior at HF, but it really helps at any event if a kid is an extrovert.  My kid is okay at this stuff, but I wish I had had him basically memorize an introduction to the coaches, especially the ones he had contacted before attending.

Saw a few coaches talking to kids after the event, but not a lot. 

In the recruiting talk for parents, coaches said Ivies want test scores by now, though they say they are not likely to commit to a prospect until they see the full jr. year transcript.  The early test score, though, can help them keep a kid high on their list.  I know it's been said here before but this is worth repeating: Getting recruited by an Ivy league school is a dance that's not for the faint of heart. They're generous with their time and emails, they're well-spoken, they make you feel like you’re the center of the room.  And they’re doing the same thing with 100 kids like your boy.  Because they HAVE to.  With my older son, I resented this. With my 2019 I am more amused by it.  It's just the way it is.

Hope this helps.  If you're wondering what event to go for and money is limited, then I would make your first priority which coaches will be at the event.  The costs are so similar that the differences in price are irrelevant.

"Don't be mean now because remember: Wherever you go, there you are..." Buckaroo Banzai

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Nice summary, Smoke. When 2015 went through process, he hit a few of the Showball showcases which for him were even more productive than HF. They were well run and often do have a huge number of coaches attend. I also like some of the funky uniform colors (such as burnt orange, military green, neon, vegas gold & pink!)

Smoke, we were there this past weekend as well and agree with your very on-target assessment (I kept wondering if anyone else from HSBBW was there and realized I should have posted ahead of time).  The 1:1 verbal evaluation was fantastic because it was a consolidation of comments from several coaches and provided an honest view on how multiple coaches see his potential -- both level, position(s), and a few tips on the process and what to focus on.  My husband went to HF with him and agrees with you that coach access was better at HF, but no formal eval like SB.  

If a family can afford it, doing both is ideal -- at HF Long Island son was seen mostly by RCs and a few HCs, and at SB all HCs.  So now he's been seen by both HC and RC at most of his target schools and they have a more thorough picture.  Son had opportunity to have several good conversations and already a few follow-ups.  

Agree, this is not for the faint hearted...and Ripken, son was Vegas Gold... 

Just a fair warning here regarding Ivy Recruiting: Princeton, Yale, and Columbia have all committed 2019s already this fall and Penn started committing them this past summer. Saying they wait for full junior year transcript is simply polite politicking to keep up the pearly white academic image of the Ivies. They still have ballpark standards but the calendar is much more advanced than people realize.

Echo High Heat's warning.  Harvard's Decker made a comment about this when asked what the timeline for 2019's. For all the bluster about GPA being an equal partner to SAT/ACT scores at these schools, I think it's the SAT/ACT that drives the academic bus.  If a kid can get a high score early, it makes some sense that, if the grades have been good to that point, they'll stay good.  So, by all means take the ACT/SAT tests early, and don't stop taking them (another Decker comment).

Agree with Smoke. A 2019 former student of mine has received interest from 2 ACC (I think an offer from one). His grades are what they need to be for Harvard . The Coach gave him a "threshold" SAT score (I forgot what it is, because it's now a 2-part again). For a super, ready to contribute P in the past, 2000 (3-part SAT) seemed to be a magic number which allows for super scoring.

Ripken Fan posted:

Agree with Smoke. A 2019 former student of mine has received interest from 2 ACC (I think an offer from one). His grades are what they need to be for Harvard . The Coach gave him a "threshold" SAT score (I forgot what it is, because it's now a 2-part again). For a super, ready to contribute P in the past, 2000 (3-part SAT) seemed to be a magic number which allows for super scoring.

Also, the number varies per kid. I had the opportunity to talk with a number of the parents of a 2018 recruiting class, and it's not consistent -- one kid might be told he needs a 28 on the ACT, another a 30, another a 32. The recruiting class as a whole has to average at or above the school's AI target (one standard deviation below the overall student body).

Agree with Smoke that the ACT/SAT score is the main driver (they've already excluded the kids whose grades their first two years don't pass muster).

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