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For the last 5 years I have been all around the Dallas metroplex baseball circles and seen some pretty amazing things. Reflecting back on the last 5 years here are some of my thoughts for you aspiring parents to think about (these thoughts pertain to high school players and above):

1. Baseball training facilities are springing up everywhere in Dallas/Fort Worth these days. You need to be real careful who you take lessons from - there are many instructors out there who should not be teaching baseball mechanics to high school players and above. I would venture to say that the old 80/20 rule exists - 80% of the so called teachers should not be giving lessons. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure this one out - when an ex pitcher is teaching you how to hit a baseball, something is wrong. Here is a general rule I would follow: I would only invest in lessons from a player who had ATLEAST been through the minor instructional league in the last 5 years. This would be my minimum standard.

2. There is alot of discussion about how it is fine for baseball organizations and showcase events to make money, etc. I do not disagree with this. What I do disagree with is when the primary motive is money and not baseball. There is a difference. We should not confuse the two.

3. College camps are way for college coaches to make money for their programs and themselves. I would suggest not wasting your time if your primary goal is to get recruited by a specific college program. Most of the high DI colleges in Texas goes through the high level select baseball organizations: Mustangs, Tigers, ect. They have a pretty good clamp on the DI market. You can get there through national showcasing (like Perfect Game) - but it is pretty tough (easier for pitchers vs. positional players).

4. The only national showcase organization I would trust today is Perfect Game. There is no one even close. Do not be fooled.

5. Aspiring players must play, play , play ... to get to the next level. However, just playing all the time is not enough. Players must take time to learn the right baseball mechanics. Baseball is alot like the game of golf - I can play golf everyday and if my mechanics are not right then I will NEVER shoot par golf. Two other overlooked areas is learning the mental side of baseball and spending time training to be an athlete. Colleges want the athletes.

6. All high school administrations need to start holding their coaches more accountable for winning - like they do for their football programs. If they did - alot of the politics, etc. would begin to disappear in our high school baseball programs. They need to also quit treating their baseball programs like stepchilds.

7. SMU needs to get a baseball program - they would have alot better chance of winning a national championship vs. trying to do it with their football program. Baylor, TCU and UTA - there is a new person in town now and their name is the University of North Texas. SMU needs to pay attention.

8. The Dallas/Fort Worth high level select programs are starting to smell a little. One organization merging with another, ex coaches jumping from one organization to another, and other things I will not mention on this website. Needless to say that this is beginning to sound like the Fortune 500 and Wall Street.

9. I would like to see the major leagues in the Dallas/Ft Worth (BBI, Lonestar, etc.) and some of the major teaching facilities (DBAT, Baseball Institute, etc.) do some charity work to give something back to baseball in the community. There are alot of kids in the DFW area who cannot even afford a bat or a glove. Baseball needs these kids.

10. My final thought - just be careful of how you spend your time and money. There is alot of at stake and alot of money on the line. Usually when you have these two things in any part of life - there exists the good and the bad. Be sure that you can tell the difference.


Just some of my thoughts.
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Originally posted by PASSION:
Here is a general rule I would follow: I would only invest in lessons from a player who had ATLEAST been through the minor instructional league in the last 5 years. This would be my minimum standard.


Darn it! My sons instructor hasn't been to minor league instructs since 1999, thats 6 years! I guess I'll fire him.

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Originally posted by PASSION:
The Dallas/Fort Worth high level select programs are starting to smell a little. One organization merging with another, ex coaches jumping from one organization to another, and other things I will not mention on this website. Needless to say that this is beginning to sound like the Fortune 500 and Wall Street.


Imo, this is nothing new, coaches leaving and teams merging has been happening for 25 years even going back to the mighty DPA winning all those city championships (before there were 30 different world series to go to) I remember when some of the DPA players went to play with a little known BBI team that nobody had heard of called the Mustangs. Or when the World champion 16U Dallas Braves merged with the same team. Nothing new IMO.
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Passion --

#9 is my favorite....... area baseball leagues/teams/instructors in DFW giving something back to the community. What a great experience for our players and a great benefit for our inner-city youth!!

By the way, I have some "old" catcher gear that I would like to give to a kid/team.

PM me if anyone knows a spot for it. I had it with me at the MMWS games I attended, hoping to give it to the P.R. team.... but they were already out/gone. However, I know someone in Dallas/Ft.Worth could use it.

(How about a Swap/Trade/Donate topic on this website?? Smile)
Since this about 3 of these statements look like they may be directed towards guys like me I thought I would answer some of them.

(Here is a general rule I would follow: I would only invest in lessons from a player who had ATLEAST been through the minor instructional league in the last 5 years. This would be my minimum standard.)


#1 This means 2 years ago I should have stopped doing lessons. Also I guess I should fire my 3 instructors that have been with me for the past 6 years including myself. This is crazy!!!! I am a much better instuctor today then I was when I first opened up. I do agree the parents should be careful when picking an instructor. Just as I do when hiring one.

(College camps are way for college coaches to make money for their programs and themselves. I would suggest not wasting your time if your primary goal is to get recruited by a specific college program.)


#2 Totally not true. I personally know kids who have signed out of a college camp.


(The Dallas/Fort Worth high level select programs are starting to smell a little. One organization merging with another, ex coaches jumping from one organization to another, and other things I will not mention on this website. Needless to say that this is beginning to sound like the Fortune 500 and Wall Street.)

#8 You just said in #2 that the high level select teams have a clamp on the D1's. Why wouldn't a team that is not in an organization make a move for the better of the kids? DBAT does not make a penny on any of our 3 teams. Matter of fact Dallas Baseball Academy spent over $10,000.00 on our teams this year.

(I would like to see the major leagues in the Dallas/Ft Worth (BBI, Lonestar, etc.) and some of the major teaching facilities (DBAT, Baseball Institute, etc.) do some charity work to give something back to baseball in the community. There are alot of kids in the DFW area who cannot even afford a bat or a glove. Baseball needs these kids.)

#9 DBAT every year gives 2 DISD schools over 20 pair of gloves, over 10 dozen balls, buckets, catchers gear, Nets, and Screens. We also spent last year over $3,000.00 with local High schools for there media guides, golf tournaments, field tarps. I also gave 2 $2000.00 pitching machines to two different Dallas Junior Colleges that could not afford to buy one.

Thanks Cade
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Guys, let's take the original comments in the spirit in which they were made. In my opinion, PASSION was not specifically targeting a person or an organization. I think many of his comments are valid.

I do not agree that an instructor needs to be "current" in terms of on-the-field experience -- that's a bit absurd. Most players that leave the game are no more qualified to teach/instruct than the guy that watches it intensely. Teaching is a skill in and of itself. It involves seeing intricacies, communicating effectively, balancing criticisms, patience, etc. The mechanics of baseball aren't drastically different than they were 15-20 years ago. (Another thread can discuss the changes in the game over the last few decades). An experienced instructor remains "current" anyway by maintaining relationships, watching, listening, etc.

I think the comment that the organizations should give back is a good one. I don't think PASSION meant to imply that this was not happening. There are two kinds of givers (at least) -- those that give without wanting the world to see and those that want a bell to ring every time they are charitable. Cade, I commend you for your charitable acts -- and the fact that few, if any, know about them is equally commendable. I know you could list many associated with your organization that are very giving people -- without seeking recognition or accolades for being generous.

I think his comment about attending specific college camps was meant to imply that the investment should be viewed more for the experience than the opportunity for exposure, especially for those that do not want to attend those schools. For instance -- if I know I can afford only Texas state schools -- does it make sense to attend the Baylor, Rice, TCU, or Stanford camps every year, knowing that a GREAT baseball scholly there will still result in a $15-20K bill? I think the college camps are great experiences....but many times the exposure is limited to that particular school. I assume the kids that you know that sign at a college camp have targeted that school to a degree -- and can afford it.

Concerning primary motives for showcases, etc.....that's a difficult thing to judge, eh? Anyone out there waving a flag or running a banner on their website that reads -- "COME TO OUR EVENT -- WE'LL TAKE YOUR MONEY FIRST, THEN DO THE BASEBALL THING!!!"?

Who can argue with #6 and #7? Smile

Coaches/orgs merging.......the results speak for themselves.......if DBAT (for example) doesn't want to become better every year, I don't want to be a part of it. Changes of this type can be handled with a degree of integrity and class, I hope. <-- no target intended, a simple statement.

Cade, as I've mentioned in the past, I think we benefit from your contributions here. Thanks.

As always -- my opinions are like.......well, you know the saying.

-PD
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Some schools, FSU for one, recruit very heavily from their camps. I agree, for the most part, that most are just money makers for the coaches. Do your home wrok and ask questions as to how many kids they sign every year from camps. Just common sense.

PDaddy, the stanford camp is one of the best if your son is a bright student with great grades. They get lots of other high academic schools to their camp to help and just watch and recruit. It is very good for Stanford because they need good students and lots of good students go to the camp who are not always Stanford material. It is good for the Ivy type schools to come and recruit.

PASSION, I appreciate YOUR thoughts. You are entitled to your opinions and observations. A pretty good post all in all. Just because some don't agree with all of your observations doesn't mean that it did not seem that way to you.

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