Son will not be invited back to JV BaseBall

If it was me I would have handled the meeting with the coach, man to man, and not my wife.  

Is there any chance next year of playing high school ball?

This is a fairly unfair post.  Do you know Dman?  Do you know his job responsibilities, work hours, etc?  This situation had to be dealt with quickly if their son was going to have a chance to get on the JV.  Some parents have jobs.  They have to travel for those jobs.  They have long hours with long commutes.  It isn't as easy as sitting at a computer and being all macho.

 

Take care,

 

Darrell

Well since his previous post was deleted... what is the short version of the back story?

Short story: JV soph, who looks like an adequate player on video cut as junior. Father's previous posts seemed a bit off the wall leading people to think he might be the issue.

 

A side issue was the kid received a mass mailer to a Stanford camp and dad thought he was being recruited.

Yes all the kids that where cut can try out again next year. My wife was the one that decided to talk to the coaches, as I decided not to..  what this the short version of the back story?

YES it is.    CoachB25 is vary close on his statment.

 

Does your son know why he was cut (either from Varsity or JV) and what he needs to work on?  I hope he's doing well, being cut is painful.

Wow,sounds like u just wanted to be right. ...so I was cleared of that one.

first of all most coaches would not tell u that to your face, or to your wife's.

The fact  that u even have to ask means it must be a possibility. 

Sorry for your son if he really loved the game.

still don't know why parents are involved. Coach should have met w son and explained his decision, maybe even give him advice on how to improve if they think he has a shot next yr.  maybe they just don't see him as a skilled player who can help the team win. 

we all wish your son well, let's just lay it to rest.

Did they explain what the "issue" was? 

Any junior on JV should be projected as a starter next year, otherwise there's no point in keeping him on the team.  JV is not a holding tank for kids that can't make varsity.

My son's high school would keep a junior on JV and give them some playing time. If they weren't in the plans senior year the coach would give them a uniform for sticking it out as long as they understood their job is to cheerlead and chase foul balls. When my son was a soph one of these players was a respected team leader from the bench.

I agree with you but some kids came back and played with us last year and where cut this year as seniors  Well my wife had to ask and she did.... and i know it sounds funny but it was asked...  
Remember i did not say he was a stanford recruit, the letter he received last year as a 15 Y.O. JV player said he was....... We have a spring training baseball league that he will tryout for this Sunday in the eastbay. I here these kids are real good so he may not make the teams but need to keep him busy

You need to focus more on getting him on the right summer team if he wants to play in college. Step one is an honest look in the mirror of what level he has the potential to play college ball. Under the circumstances I would guess D3.

If Maxpreps is right your son's school is carrying only 15 on Varsity and 14 on JV.  I really don't get how a coach tells a kid he can't play baseball when the rosters are that size. Even now that you've been told it's not a PITA parent issue I still feel like there is something else at play. Not enough uni's?

I think we all hear or read some version of this tale at least a few times every year, and it all comes down to the same thing. Its too bad kids who have the will and desire to play baseball  sometimes are kept from doing it. But even though there are times when its done wrongly, my guess is in the vast vast majority of instances, the person making the final decision is anything but happy about it.

 

What makes it difficult to deal with, is when the person making that final decision doesn’t handle it very well in the eyes of the parents. The kids almost always get over it because there’s no other choice. But when someone tells most parents I know that their child doesn’t “measure up” to all the others, its something that not only hurts, but doesn’t stop hurting very quickly.

So you think that moms cant handle this type of stuff.

Despite that stupid comment, playball is totally correct, your son should have handled this with the coach himself asked why he didn't make the V team and what does he need to work on. He is a junior now, if he can't talk to a coach face to face how do you expect a college coach to recruit him?

Most HS programs will not accept juniors or seniors on their varsity so I am not surprised by the decision.

JMO

Yeah we see how the mom blew this one!

My son felt that when the head coach makes a decisions it is final. I told him to talk to the coach. The coach told them his word is final.......... Do not ask to get back on varsity or JV...  What is a kid to ask about when you hear that..   My wife said it can not hurt to try.. What is wrong with that.  PLUS he is a minor and is still our responsibility,  18 and in college baseball then he will need to step up to the PLATE...

SHE did not blow it,,, They already had made there decisions  Looked at it in every way..   

I've had a parent or two come in and talk after I've made cuts.  Of course I talked to every player I cut.  If some of you will recall many years ago, I mentioned that when I began coaching, I posted a list.  Then, I told the players that I would be inside the office waiting to talk to those that were cut. I had comments, ratings by the coaches, etc. ready to tell them things that I thought that they needed to work on.  Naturally, if they didn't want to come in, I didn't want to hurt them more.  From there, I decided that the list just didn't cut it.  So, I progressed to talking to everyone I cut and had the handouts for them.  Some parents then took the list and came in.  Sometimes they didn't agree with the comments.  Sometimes they asked how to help their son work on things.  I never had a problem talking to these parents though their feelings were hurt, they didn't want to accept the coaching staff judgement and they wanted to blame us.  Face to face player and if you have to parent is the best way to go because it keeps you humble as a coach.  JMHO!

We are doing the research to keep this talented kid in the game so that maybe one day we all can see him on the Oakland A's.  That is not my dream but his from a early age.  Did you see Josh Reddick great catch.  I hope NAIA ect... Santa Rosa JC my son is looking into as a goal..

 

Dman, I'm going to give you some advice and do with it what you want.  Your son is hurting now and he may or may not be showing it.  You need to let him vent some on this and then that is it.  If he truly wants to be a players, he has to refocus.  I was cut as a freshman and sophomore.  I had some anger/fighting issues that the coaching staff would not put up with.  I had to fix myself.  My dad and mom never blamed the coaching staff.  They never made excuses.  My dad basically built a hitting station onto the back of my house and I went to work.  When tryouts came my junior year, there was no question who the best player was on the team.  Yes, I had a chip on my shoulder and I made it into a positive for me and for my life. 

Good Question,,,,,,,,???????????????????????????????????

Best answer  Weight Train. Now you know why my wife was a better choice with this meeting.. My son will still have a meeting with them too.  

Given the circumstances your son may want to be a little more realistic about becoming a MLBer. While you shouldn't discourage him, you should have more of a sense of reality than to hold on to your dream.

 If he wants to get better, don't take this time off. Look for the best competitive team to get on this summer that you can find. Sitting the bench won't help, find a team where he will be challenged everyday. Play with a team where you are surrounded by ball players, not buddies, but real ball players. Again I must say don't sit the bench, but get on the dirt everyday and compete. An hour spent with a good evaluator might be in order. Find out what areas that he can improve on.

If I was so busy that I couldn't have a personal chat with the coach within a reasonable amount of time then I would have called the coach.  Nothing macho about it.  I suppose I like the way people handled issues when I was a kid. 

 remember its a dream, he knows what the odds are. Just let him decide at what level he can make it to, it is not yours or my life to live but his I have told him you be better off playing the LOTO, but he will not listen. Good for him not to listen, Keep batting son...

 I agree with you,    ,, we can say this way that way . We did the best under the circumstances.

 If this is a tough kid with some fight in him, than this might be a totally different thread this time next year. but if we are talking about a laid back family with a laid back approach then JR is not gonna make it next year either.......just saying!

 

 One of the good things about a strong travel team organization is most kids learn the ins and outs about getting cut at a young age.

Thank you, We had to try, and i like your method on dealing with these hard decisions.

Unless you are one of the travel coaches sons.  

 

My son played with the same travel team from 12 to 14 and there was a kid that would barely make a league team who was kept on the roster and allowed to play because his Dad helped at practices and was considered an asst. coach. He was also good friends with the head coach.  

I didnt mean he should go ask for a second chance but rather why he didnt make the team.  Obviously he needs work in the gym and some skills.
Take my advice, dreaming doesnt get you to mlb bit rather very hard work. If your son is not willing to put in the time needed to be a ball player he will never be.

And the comment about your wife goes to show what type of jerks are offering you advice!

You hit it on the NAIL, and i told him that. He is no dummy. I am still a private pilot and i am still dreaming about an airline pilot job..$$$$$  Too old now and could not pass the eye exam.

He is a fighter but making varsity next year...  GOOD LUCK, Unless he hits the fence every swing next year they have written him off by not placing him back on JV....

I agree 100 percent.  What is it going to hurt?  He has already been cut.

I disagree.  The coaches had already made up their mind, and either parent going to talk to the coach was a shot in the dark anyway.  

You are so right... 

DMan - Is the reason your son can't go "back to JV" is he is a Junior and Juniors aren't allowed to play on the JV team?  Our region is exactly the same.  If a junior or senior doesn't make the varsity cut,  JV is not an option.

 

A few years back when my son was still on JV, there was a junior, like your son, that was cut from varsity - could not go "down" to JV.  But guess what, the next year as a senior he did make the team.

No. he can play down as a junior, not as a senior.