Sophomore throwing 86 already

86 as a sophomore - thats quite good - but no offense - there are about 20 sophomores in my area throwing in the low 90's on the stalker gun

Seed Hitter,

Did you say 20? In just your area? In the low 90s?

Can't say I've seen 20....but I have seen two from around here hit it.

Can you say who they are?

I would say the number might be more like ten. Most of these kids play for Dallas teams. Tigers,Dodgers,Dbat. I would also Add they project real well for the future. Couple of these kids already have frames 6'3 to 6'5 with good mechanics.

I would love to hear names, too. I'm in the Dallas area, and 10-20 sounds like a big exaggeration.

Nick Chmielewski-- a sophomore at Carl Sandburg High School in Orland Park, IL is throwing 90 mph.

Still waiting on names for the DFW area.....

90mph is not the key to pitching. I knew a kid from Rhode island that pitched aroung the 85-90mph mark since he was 12....he pitched for high school and did some what good but he had no mechanics and no control. The speed is just there for some people, but speed isnt every thing.

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Originally posted by Willieg90:
90mph is not the key to pitching. I knew a kid from Rhode island that pitched aroung the 85-90mph mark since he was 12....he pitched for high school and did some what good but he had no mechanics and no control. The speed is just there for some people, but speed isnt every thing.

85-90 since 12U?!?! Do you think you might be exaggerating a bit?

Seed Hitter is exagerating, & will resemble Pinnochio before too long!

There are a handful of seniors (as of last day of school this year) at 90+, but I haven't seen any sophomores (incoming juniors).
Everyone in the world would have heard of them by now!

DBat has 2, Blackhawks have 2, that are known to PG. There may be a couple more in N. Texas area, and a couple "on the brink"...
It's not all about velocity, anyway...
Can the kid hit his spots?...keep his head about him?... stay focused?...get out of a jam?...dominate?...deception?, throw strikes, last without tiring, etc, etc, etc....

I was a competive sailor (J-24's, Flying Dutchman, Ericson's)...I could pull on the sheets hard (a rope), or adjust the tiller (syncronized with sheets) but...I would have to be able to read the wind (invisible), how it "plays"on the water (direction & gusts-lulls) & be able to make the neccessary adjustments to gain or maintain boat speed, shift weight for heel, avoid another boat or obstruction, etc.

Lots more to pitching than throwing a ball.

Nate

1) There are lots of kids that just finished their sophomore year throwing mid eighties in my area.

2) The ones that just throw mid eighties watch the ball fly out of the park at an even greater rate of speed. It gets ugly - often. Especially when the hitters are using the bionic aluminum clubs.

3) The ones that throw in the mid 80's at that age - hit their spots - mix in off speed changes and curves and pitch smart are much more impressive than the kids that just chuck up fast meatballs.

no names in DFW????

There's NO WAY that there's a 12 year old throwing 85-90. I would bet it's physically impossible as far as biomechanics are concerned. Some of the best 12's from around the world come together each year in the LLWS. The fastest I've seen there is low 70's from 46 ft. (At which point the announcer informs us that a pitch coming in at 72 is the reaction time equivalent of a 90+ mph pitch at 60.5 ft. lol)

You are well named.

No need to hammer anyone here. He has suffered enough already. Look throwing 86 as a soph is really good. There are alot of sophs that can do it but it still is really good. We had a Freshman this year that cruised at 83-84 and max was around 85-86. We had two sophs that were 85-86. We have also seen years when we didnt have one guy in the mid 80's period. I had a Freshman throw 88 one year and 82 as a Soph. You just never know what kids are going to do from year to year. How hard are they going to work? Are they going to stay healthy? Have they peaked? Are they full grown as a 15 year old? ETC ETC. We had a soph that threw 80 tops and was drafted as a senior by Atlanta throwing 92 93 cruising at 88-89. Just because you are exceptional for your age as a soph does not mean you will be for a Junior or Senior. And just because your average as a Soph does not mean you will still be average as a Senior. Time will tell - work ethic - genetics - the good lord etc etc.

Well said Coach May!

I applaud the kid for promoting himself especially if he is the main force behind it. It shows he has some marketing savvy that will be an asset regardless of how hard he throws.

I would have rather he be a little more upfront with his initial introduction and perhaps next time he will.

Go Huskers!

natefun you can come back whenever your ready. You are not the first person or the last that has gotten blasted here. Stick around and enjoy the conversation and try to learn somethings like all of us. If your a stud and can play all the other stuff will take care of itself. Keep working and continue to get better every day.

Michael Main with Deland has been clocked at 94 last year when he was a soph., Ricky Kay hits low 90's for Deland as well and is a soph..

NAte,
I give you lots of credit, you got their attention!

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So can we not list these Dallas Select Ball Studs on here? Were we exaggerating a little?

My son plays in the DFW area and as a freshman we seen more than a few in the mid 80's and one 8th grader that was 6'-3"ish that was in the high 80's. What ya'll been feeding them kids ?

As an oldtimer I hope all these kids that are throwing 88 90 etc are throwing strikes. then you really have something

Unless they have a good offspeed pitch, they may be better off not throwing strikes. Against the top select teams, 88 mph FB = whiplash, unless there is a lot of movement or a good offspeed.

there is a 6'4 Sophmore kid in Texas(Rogers) at a 2A we faced several times last year as a freshman..We were both in the top 5 ...He was consistently 84-85 and topped out at 88 on our jugs.. The kid could locate and drop a nasty duece on you as well. He also had a decent change..I took a job at a 4a this year. Not a good idea to stay in his region or district..7 others on that team were sophs.. the kid will be a possible high pick some day.

I saw on another board that Robert Stock hit 95 in a game the other day. He's a 16yo '06. I'm not sure but I believe he may still be 15yo. In the unlikely case that my son makes varsity as a sophmore in '07 he may just have to be sick when we play them.

CADad,

Robert is still 15 years old. He turns 16 in November.

Jason

**** the kid may be throwing in the 103-105 range as a Senior!!