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Southeastern District Games: April 16-21 (Week 5)

'59Tiger'59Tiger10+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by WB Reporter:
Curious, anyone know what year Tyler Lilley of Lakeland is? Having 5 hits in a game is an accomplishment and he was Lakeland's pitcher to boot.




According to MaxPreps, Lilley is a Sophomore who was 9-for-17 (.529 BA), with 3-2B, 1-3B, 1-HR, 8-RBI, 7-BB (.692 OBP). Pitching wise, a 6.40 ERA in 10 innings.
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G GoHeels1,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by El gato:
With tomorrow's contests, I suspect we will see more separation in the district. How many losses will the eventual SED regular season champ have? Two, three or four losses in the district? Conversely, will five losses eliminate a team from the first two spots in the district and require the team to play an extra game at tournament time?
Although will the current SED tournament schedule, not sure if it matters much.


My guess is that the winner will have 3 losses, and the top four will finish somewhere in the 15-3 to 13-5 range. It is anyone's guess, at this point, as to who will be where. I do understand that GB is 6-4 currently. My feeling though is that they hit and pitch too well to drop more than one game for the remainder of the season. That means that they would have to win 2 of 3 against Hickory, WB, and NR, and win all the others. I'm suggesting that they will.

I think it's becoming more likely that there would be a one game playoff for the the automatic birth to the regionals. That really puts the top 2 at a disadvantage, in the event of a tie at the end of the regular season. It would be difficult to go all out in a tiebreaker for the no. 1 seed, lose, then have to battle through the tournament, having already thrown your no. 1 starter.
thesportsattorneythesportsattorney10+ posts
WB's 7th inning sounds like a replay of its 7th inning Monday night against Hickory. 2-on and no outs and you have your 1-hole batter bunting (I believe Monday it was the 2-hole batter). I agree with El Gato's comments/analysis to my original post on the Monday night bunt call. But it seems some coaches will bunt anyone, anytime, anyplace. It's a small ball world after all.

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Originally posted by WB Reporter:
And now the rest of the WB / Lakeland story.

Western Branch scored an unearned run in the second inning. Bobby Barefoot singled to left and scored on an infield error/grounder that made its way into right center field.

Lakeland answered in the top of the third with three unearned runs. R. Jones reached on an infield error, reached second on a sac bunt and came home on R. Stalnaker's double. After a line out, Stalnaker scored on S. McCaw's single. Lilley doubled in Lakeland's third run.

In the top of the seventh, Lakeland threatened to score the go-ahead run. J. Bass singled to left and advanced to second on R. Stalnaker's sac bunt. WB intentionally walked R. Fitzwater to create a force play. S. McCaw flied to center. Tyler Lilley singled to right field (for his fourth hit of the game) and Alex Hunt threw a strike to home (on the fly) catching J. Bass at home for the third out.
WB put its first two runners on in the bottom of the 7th inning via 2 walks, but the home plate umpire called G. Brooks for interference on an attempted bunt. The next two batter popped out to end the threat.

Lakeland threatened again in the ninth. R. Stalnaker singled to left to open the inning. One out later, S. McCaw walked. Tyler Lilley singled to right (for his fifth hit of the game), but Lakeland held the runner at third. With one out and the bases loaded, T. Strange hit the ball hard to third. Matt Roth made a diving stop, got up, touched third and threw a strike to first for the third out. In the bottom of the inning, Matt Roth singled through the 5-6 hole after two outs. G. Brooks doubled to left sending Roth to third. Lakeland intentionally walked K. McPherson to load the bases. S. Johnsonbaugh crushed a ball to right center to score Roth and win the game, 4-3.

Zach Rutherford (WB) - 6 inn, 6H, 3R (0 earned), 2K, 2BB
Shane Johnsonbaugh (WB)- 3 inn, 5H, 2 BB (1 IBB)

Tyler Lilley (L) - 6 inn, 5H, 3R, (2 earned), 8BB
J. Bass (L) - 2.2 inn, 3H, 1R, 1BB
G GoHeels1,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by thesportsattorney:
WB's 7th inning sounds like a replay of its 7th inning Monday night against Hickory. 2-on and no outs and you have your 1-hole batter bunting (I believe Monday it was the 2-hole batter). I agree with El Gato's comments/analysis to my original post on the Monday night bunt call. But it seems some coaches will bunt anyone, anytime, anyplace. It's a small ball world after all.

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Originally posted by WB Reporter:
And now the rest of the WB / Lakeland story.

Western Branch scored an unearned run in the second inning. Bobby Barefoot singled to left and scored on an infield error/grounder that made its way into right center field.

Lakeland answered in the top of the third with three unearned runs. R. Jones reached on an infield error, reached second on a sac bunt and came home on R. Stalnaker's double. After a line out, Stalnaker scored on S. McCaw's single. Lilley doubled in Lakeland's third run.

In the top of the seventh, Lakeland threatened to score the go-ahead run. J. Bass singled to left and advanced to second on R. Stalnaker's sac bunt. WB intentionally walked R. Fitzwater to create a force play. S. McCaw flied to center. Tyler Lilley singled to right field (for his fourth hit of the game) and Alex Hunt threw a strike to home (on the fly) catching J. Bass at home for the third out.
WB put its first two runners on in the bottom of the 7th inning via 2 walks, but the home plate umpire called G. Brooks for interference on an attempted bunt. The next two batter popped out to end the threat.

Lakeland threatened again in the ninth. R. Stalnaker singled to left to open the inning. One out later, S. McCaw walked. Tyler Lilley singled to right (for his fifth hit of the game), but Lakeland held the runner at third. With one out and the bases loaded, T. Strange hit the ball hard to third. Matt Roth made a diving stop, got up, touched third and threw a strike to first for the third out. In the bottom of the inning, Matt Roth singled through the 5-6 hole after two outs. G. Brooks doubled to left sending Roth to third. Lakeland intentionally walked K. McPherson to load the bases. S. Johnsonbaugh crushed a ball to right center to score Roth and win the game, 4-3.

Zach Rutherford (WB) - 6 inn, 6H, 3R (0 earned), 2K, 2BB
Shane Johnsonbaugh (WB)- 3 inn, 5H, 2 BB (1 IBB)

Tyler Lilley (L) - 6 inn, 5H, 3R, (2 earned), 8BB
J. Bass (L) - 2.2 inn, 3H, 1R, 1BB


I personally believe that the bunt is often overused these days. Having said that, with runners on 1st and 2nd, with no outs, and down by one run...it is absolutely the right call. (As was the case, in the WB vs. Hickory game)
GD Go Dawgs500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by GoHeels:
quote:
Originally posted by El gato:
With tomorrow's contests, I suspect we will see more separation in the district. How many losses will the eventual SED regular season champ have? Two, three or four losses in the district? Conversely, will five losses eliminate a team from the first two spots in the district and require the team to play an extra game at tournament time?
Although will the current SED tournament schedule, not sure if it matters much.


My guess is that the winner will have 3 losses, and the top four will finish somewhere in the 15-3 to 13-5 range. It is anyone's guess, at this point, as to who will be where. I do understand that GB is 6-4 currently. My feeling though is that they hit and pitch too well to drop more than one game for the remainder of the season. That means that they would have to win 2 of 3 against Hickory, WB, and NR, and win all the others. I'm suggesting that they will.

I think it's becoming more likely that there would be a one game playoff for the the automatic birth to the regionals. That really puts the top 2 at a disadvantage, in the event of a tie at the end of the regular season. It would be difficult to go all out in a tiebreaker for the no. 1 seed, lose, then have to battle through the tournament, having already thrown your no. 1 starter.


The regular season ends on May 11th. Assuming there's a two way tie requiring a playoff it would probably happen on Saturday the 12th at the earliest or Monday/Tuesday the 14th/15th at the latest. As the #1 and #2 seeds the first tournament game either would play would happen a week later since they would both have a first round bye. Not sure there would be any disadvantage with a week of rest.
G GoHeels1,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Go Dawgs:
quote:
Originally posted by GoHeels:
quote:
Originally posted by El gato:
With tomorrow's contests, I suspect we will see more separation in the district. How many losses will the eventual SED regular season champ have? Two, three or four losses in the district? Conversely, will five losses eliminate a team from the first two spots in the district and require the team to play an extra game at tournament time?
Although will the current SED tournament schedule, not sure if it matters much.


My guess is that the winner will have 3 losses, and the top four will finish somewhere in the 15-3 to 13-5 range. It is anyone's guess, at this point, as to who will be where. I do understand that GB is 6-4 currently. My feeling though is that they hit and pitch too well to drop more than one game for the remainder of the season. That means that they would have to win 2 of 3 against Hickory, WB, and NR, and win all the others. I'm suggesting that they will.

I think it's becoming more likely that there would be a one game playoff for the the automatic birth to the regionals. That really puts the top 2 at a disadvantage, in the event of a tie at the end of the regular season. It would be difficult to go all out in a tiebreaker for the no. 1 seed, lose, then have to battle through the tournament, having already thrown your no. 1 starter.


The regular season ends on May 11th. Assuming there's a two way tie requiring a playoff it would probably happen on Saturday the 12th at the earliest or Monday/Tuesday the 14th/15th at the latest. As the #1 and #2 seeds the first tournament game either would play would happen a week later since they would both have a first round bye. Not sure there would be any disadvantage with a week of rest.


I was unaware of the timing, regarding the district tournament. You make a great point!
thesportsattorneythesportsattorney10+ posts
My prejudices against bunting the best batters in your lineup are coming out in these posts. I hate small ball. It was the right call in the Hickory game on the first pitch, but when Hickory realized he was bunting, it changed its defense to run the wheel play. At that point, the coach should have either instructed the batter to swing away or called a double steal if his purpose was to advance the runners. But he left the bunt call on even after Hickory showed its hand. It is a debatable point and probably doesn't really matter, but I enjoy the intellectual exchange nonetheless.

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Originally posted by GoHeels:
quote:
Originally posted by thesportsattorney:
WB's 7th inning sounds like a replay of its 7th inning Monday night against Hickory. 2-on and no outs and you have your 1-hole batter bunting (I believe Monday it was the 2-hole batter). I agree with El Gato's comments/analysis to my original post on the Monday night bunt call. But it seems some coaches will bunt anyone, anytime, anyplace. It's a small ball world after all.

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Originally posted by WB Reporter:
And now the rest of the WB / Lakeland story.

Western Branch scored an unearned run in the second inning. Bobby Barefoot singled to left and scored on an infield error/grounder that made its way into right center field.

Lakeland answered in the top of the third with three unearned runs. R. Jones reached on an infield error, reached second on a sac bunt and came home on R. Stalnaker's double. After a line out, Stalnaker scored on S. McCaw's single. Lilley doubled in Lakeland's third run.

In the top of the seventh, Lakeland threatened to score the go-ahead run. J. Bass singled to left and advanced to second on R. Stalnaker's sac bunt. WB intentionally walked R. Fitzwater to create a force play. S. McCaw flied to center. Tyler Lilley singled to right field (for his fourth hit of the game) and Alex Hunt threw a strike to home (on the fly) catching J. Bass at home for the third out.
WB put its first two runners on in the bottom of the 7th inning via 2 walks, but the home plate umpire called G. Brooks for interference on an attempted bunt. The next two batter popped out to end the threat.

Lakeland threatened again in the ninth. R. Stalnaker singled to left to open the inning. One out later, S. McCaw walked. Tyler Lilley singled to right (for his fifth hit of the game), but Lakeland held the runner at third. With one out and the bases loaded, T. Strange hit the ball hard to third. Matt Roth made a diving stop, got up, touched third and threw a strike to first for the third out. In the bottom of the inning, Matt Roth singled through the 5-6 hole after two outs. G. Brooks doubled to left sending Roth to third. Lakeland intentionally walked K. McPherson to load the bases. S. Johnsonbaugh crushed a ball to right center to score Roth and win the game, 4-3.

Zach Rutherford (WB) - 6 inn, 6H, 3R (0 earned), 2K, 2BB
Shane Johnsonbaugh (WB)- 3 inn, 5H, 2 BB (1 IBB)

Tyler Lilley (L) - 6 inn, 5H, 3R, (2 earned), 8BB
J. Bass (L) - 2.2 inn, 3H, 1R, 1BB


I personally believe that the bunt is often overused these days. Having said that, with runners on 1st and 2nd, with no outs, and down by one run...it is absolutely the right call. (As was the case, in the WB vs. Hickory game)
N nrbb07100+ posts
Nansemond River won't have any pitching by the SED Tourney. Before last night Rice has almost thrown 500 pitches throught 5 starts. That is crazy! Ty isn't any better. 120 againist GB and throw close to 100 vs. WB. They will need Rice and Ty to throw complete games in the tourney! Maybe they should think about spot starting Riggs and Moore.
quote:
Originally posted by Go Dawgs:
118 is a lot. These coaches have done a good job managing the pitch counts of their 2 starters. Last night's game carried significantly more meaning than most since the loser is really on the outside looking in for the district. So the 118 is really the exception and not the rule for these coaches.
WR WB Reporter1,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by nrbb07:
He was 5 for 5, not 3 for 3
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Originally posted by bleedingblue:
WB Reporter: Also Lilley drew a walk in his 3 for 3 night.


NRBB07, I don't believe you are following the thread correctly. My report stated that it was Lilley's 5th hit of the night in the WB / Lakeland game. No one was suggesting that he was only 3/3 in the WB / Lakeland game. Bleedingblue appears to be reporting that Lilley was 3/3 with a walk in the preceding game, making him 8 / 8 in his last 8 ABs. Unless you are reporting that he was 5/5 in two consecutive games.
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'59Tiger'59Tiger10+ posts
OSCAR SMITH SCOREKEEPER GAME COMMENTARY:

OSCAR SMITH: 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 // 0 - 2 - 3
HICKORY …… : 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - x // 1 - 4 - 0
WP: Carter LP: McNeil (2-2)

Simply stated, a great game … a pitcher's umpire (the extra low strike all night) combined with TWO great performances on the mound in this one.

In the bottom of the first, Tyler Best walked on 4 pitches to start the game for Hickory. He steals 2B and 3B; then, on a ground-ball to 2B by Ryan Blake (that was played into an error), he scores. Lowry reaches on an E6, but Carter grounds into a 6-4-3 DP to end the threat.

OS's starting pitcher Jarrett McNeil only walked one other batter and struck out 7 over the remaining 5 innings of the game.

On the other hand, OS only had 2 hitters reach base in the entire game against Hickory starter Spencer Carter.

OS’s Remy Johnston hit a ground-ball base-hit to RF to lead off the 2nd inning; but, after 2 strikeouts, was thrown out trying to steal to end the inning. The only other batter to reach base was Stephen Lorkiewicz who, with one out in the top of the 7th, laid a perfect bunt up the third base line that was thrown away at 1B (Lorkiewicz had the throw beat for a hit) and ended up at 2B. After a David Loudon 4-3 groundout, pinch-hitter Conner Smith also grounded out 4-3 to end the game.

OSCAR SMITH
Johnston ('13): 1-2
Lorkiewicz ('14): 1-3
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McNeil ('13): 6 IP, 4H, 1R, 1ER, 2BB, 7K

HICKORY
Best: 0-2, R, BB, 2SB
Campbell: 2-3
Blake: 0-3, RBI
Carter: 1-3
Polansky: 1-2, BB
----------------------
Carter: 7 IP, 2H, 0R, 0BB, 6K
GD Go Dawgs500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by nrbb07:
Nansemond River won't have any pitching by the SED Tourney. Before last night Rice has almost thrown 500 pitches throught 5 starts. That is crazy! Ty isn't any better. 120 againist GB and throw close to 100 vs. WB. They will need Rice and Ty to throw complete games in the tourney! Maybe they should think about spot starting Riggs and Moore.
quote:
Originally posted by Go Dawgs:
118 is a lot. These coaches have done a good job managing the pitch counts of their 2 starters. Last night's game carried significantly more meaning than most since the loser is really on the outside looking in for the district. So the 118 is really the exception and not the rule for these coaches.


Through the same number of games last year Brown had thrown almost as many pitches as he has this year (difference is less than 40). Rice has definitely thrown more this year, but his role is different (someone had to replace Howard). Nansemond River made out OK in the District and Regional tourneys last year.
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G GoHeels1,000+ posts
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nrbb07:
Nansemond River won't have any pitching by the SED Tourney. Before last night Rice has almost thrown 500 pitches throught 5 starts. That is crazy! Ty isn't any better. 120 againist GB and throw close to 100 vs. WB. They will need Rice and Ty to throw complete games in the tourney! Maybe they should think about spot starting Riggs and Moore. [QUOTE]

Maybe you should call the coaching staff and inform them so that they may prepare accordingly! Smile
LB luv baseball5,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by GoHeels:
quote:
Originally posted by El gato:
With tomorrow's contests, I suspect we will see more separation in the district. How many losses will the eventual SED regular season champ have? Two, three or four losses in the district? Conversely, will five losses eliminate a team from the first two spots in the district and require the team to play an extra game at tournament time?
Although will the current SED tournament schedule, not sure if it matters much.


My guess is that the winner will have 3 losses, and the top four will finish somewhere in the 15-3 to 13-5 range. It is anyone's guess, at this point, as to who will be where. I do understand that GB is 6-4 currently. My feeling though is that they hit and pitch too well to drop more than one game for the remainder of the season. That means that they would have to win 2 of 3 against Hickory, WB, and NR, and win all the others. I'm suggesting that they will.

I think it's becoming more likely that there would be a one game playoff for the the automatic birth to the regionals. That really puts the top 2 at a disadvantage, in the event of a tie at the end of the regular season. It would be difficult to go all out in a tiebreaker for the no. 1 seed, lose, then have to battle through the tournament, having already thrown your no. 1 starter.


Good Call. This is exactly what happened to WB last year. They beat GB in the last game to tie for the regular season. they then lost the playoff and got beat by NR in the District.

It is becomeing increasingly clear that at least two very good teams will not get to regionals from SED. I think the district goes at least 7 deep with competetive teams.
GD Go Dawgs500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by luv baseball:
quote:
Originally posted by GoHeels:
quote:
Originally posted by El gato:
With tomorrow's contests, I suspect we will see more separation in the district. How many losses will the eventual SED regular season champ have? Two, three or four losses in the district? Conversely, will five losses eliminate a team from the first two spots in the district and require the team to play an extra game at tournament time?
Although will the current SED tournament schedule, not sure if it matters much.


My guess is that the winner will have 3 losses, and the top four will finish somewhere in the 15-3 to 13-5 range. It is anyone's guess, at this point, as to who will be where. I do understand that GB is 6-4 currently. My feeling though is that they hit and pitch too well to drop more than one game for the remainder of the season. That means that they would have to win 2 of 3 against Hickory, WB, and NR, and win all the others. I'm suggesting that they will.

I think it's becoming more likely that there would be a one game playoff for the the automatic birth to the regionals. That really puts the top 2 at a disadvantage, in the event of a tie at the end of the regular season. It would be difficult to go all out in a tiebreaker for the no. 1 seed, lose, then have to battle through the tournament, having already thrown your no. 1 starter.


Good Call. This is exactly what happened to WB last year. They beat GB in the last game to tie for the regular season. they then lost the playoff and got beat by NR in the District.

It is becomeing increasingly clear that at least two very good teams will not get to regionals from SED. I think the district goes at least 7 deep with competetive teams.


Last year Western Branch lost to Nansemond River with their best pitcher on the hill. I don't follow the logic that WB was at a disadvantage after losing the playoff game and facing NR with Thompson pitching. Who else would they have wanted on the hill in that game?
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CF CARDS FAN100+ posts
I have not been to a high school baseball game and had that many fans at the game. Brian Beard started vs Matt Campbell and Hickory started off with 2-0 lead. The number 3 hitter #21 hit a blast a solo in first 2 make it 2-0. Great Bridge scored 2 in the bottom to tie hit.Connor jones hit a solo to make it 3-2 and then scored 3 more to make it 6-2. Brian pitched 4-5 strong innings than cooper came and hickory started a rally and connor jones came in and closed the rally
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Q QuadAAAA100+ posts
For Hickory:
R.Blake 1-3, RBI
C.Lowry 1-1, HR, BB, HBP
#11 2-3

For Great Bridge:
Top 3 in order were 1-9 with a BB and 2 HBP
A.Owens 2-3, BB
T.Lane 2-4
K.Matthews 1-2, 2 BB's
C.Jones 1-2, HR, HBP

Pitching accuracy was an issue for Hickory as they issued 5 walks and hit 3 batters. Defensively a very clean game with most of the errors coming on errant pick-off throws by GB.
GD Go Dawgs500+ posts
Indian River 1R 5H 3E 6LOB
Nansemond River 2R 7H 0E 6LOB

Another pitcher's duel in a game that was complete in about an hour and a half. Kyle Moore started on the hill for NR and retired the side in order in the top of the first. NR got their first run in the bottom of the first when Brandon Lowe began a two out rally with a double. Lowe advanced to third on a wild pitch and was driven in by Kyle Moore who singled to left center. IR threatened in the top of the 4th when #4 White and #6 Hall reached on back to back singles. After a flyball out Moore struck out the next two batters to end the inning. In the top of the 5th IR scored after #25 Redd drew a walk, stole second and was driven in by a double to left center by #7 Milvo. NR answered in the bottom of the inning when Trevor Riggs singled. Riggs moved to second on a throwing error by the catcher. Tyler Brown reached on a sac bunt attempt when the second baseman couldn't find the bag after catching the throw from the catcher. With runners on first and third Travis Johnson hit a hard ground ball to third who turned a double play while Riggs scored from third. IR threatened again in the 6th with back to back singled by Hall and #5 Hunt. Moore again shut it down striking out the next 3 batters. Tyler Brown then closed the game retiring the side in order.

Pitching:
NR
Kyle Moore W 6IP 1R 5H 10K 2BB
Tyler Brown S 1IP 0R 0H 2K 0BB

IR
#5 Hunt L 6IP 2R 7H 2K 1BB

Hitting:
NR
Brandon Lowe 3-3, 2B, run scored
Kyle Moore 2-3, 2B, RBI

IR
#6 Hall 2-3
#7 Milvo 1-4, 2B, RBI
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