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Starting workouts.. question about gaining...

D Dh3310+ posts
I'm just about to start my workouts for the summer and beyond, to gain core muscle and leg strength [with focus on the lower back and shoulder]

With this, I was talking with some body builders, and was recommended a protein shake called "Large" sold at GNC stores.

It is basically a protein shake, I was told works by, like I said, a body builder.

Before I go using protein shakes and what not, I'm sort of worried that, in the end of it all... my velocity will be down..

I've heard of people putting on muscle, and then seeing a decrease in velocity, and I certainly don't want that.
But I also heard, that does happen because one part of your body doesn't catch up with your back or whatever, thats why there is a decrease, and it eventually returns...

I need some assistance, as to what is right?

Dan

btw, I'm 15... so I'm rather clueless... I just want to lose weight and get better for next season.
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J jsorb8997100+ posts
Hey man- The "Large" shake you're referring to is N-Large. It's a decent weight gain powder, but I think you want to lose weight, so save some money and just buy some regular protein powder. If you put on muscle properly, you won't have to worry about losing velocity: you'll increase it. Use a routine based on compound movements.

Example Routine:

Monday: Squat/Glute Ham Raise/Walking Lunge/Front Squat

Wednesday: Deadlift/Powerclean/Pullup

Friday: DB bench press/Military Press/Light Squat

I just threw that together...by all means a rough example. Think COMPOUND movements, not isolation movements like curls/extensions/etc.

Here is my log/routine over at bodybuilding.com. Keep in mind that it's for both baseball and football.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=704296
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JD Jon Doyle1,000+ posts
Yes, healthy nutrition is very similar for everyone. But certainly athletic needs, as well as training needs differ from bodybuilders and other athletes. And even further on that, differnt sports require different butritional requirements.

The supplement companies will try and make you believe you need simple carbs (even though there really isnt such a thing, it's based upon Gylcemic Index) most simply do not.

Post-workout you need to replenish glycogen and natural cranberry juice or organic honey will do a better job than anything else out there. And provide some health benefits on top of that.
J jsorb8997100+ posts
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Originally posted by Jon Doyle:
Yes, healthy nutrition is very similar for everyone. But certainly athletic needs, as well as training needs differ from bodybuilders and other athletes. And even further on that, differnt sports require different butritional requirements.

The supplement companies will try and make you believe you need simple carbs (even though there really isnt such a thing, it's based upon Gylcemic Index) most simply do not.

Post-workout you need to replenish glycogen and natural cranberry juice or organic honey will do a better job than anything else out there. And provide some health benefits on top of that.


Yep. I always add honey to my PWO shakes (organic, if I can get my hands on it). Just wondering...you seem to have something against bodybuilders. IMO a true bodybuilder would be one of the best people to listen to for advice about diet for gaining weight/losing weight, especially compared to the majority of baseball players you talk to who don't know the first thing about diet. The only thing that would be different would be in season/pre-game nutrition/etc. One wouldn't follow their routine, obviously, but what would be wrong with this?
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D Dh3310+ posts
after doing more reading, I decided to drop the protein shakes and all that stuff...
Instead, just do my workouts, and eat like 50 x healthier.

I started today [this morning]

Did 2 1/2 miles, and some light workouts, core stretches etc.

And I ate a low fat bagel and a single egg with diced up peppers[for flavor].

Ill look into what JD said about the berries and what not =]
JD Jon Doyle1,000+ posts
The real reason why runners are so skinny is due to extremely low levels of testosterone...

I have nothing against bodybuilders at all. But bodybuilding will make an athlete less of an athlete. They may look th epart, but won't be able to play it.

I also have a problem a "bodybuilder" recommending a poor supplement instead of educating about proper nutrition first.
J jsorb8997100+ posts
I agree. Any real bodybuilder who's been in the game for long enough would know that diet is much more important than any supplement (unless he was pushing a product of course). Obviously an athlete wouldn't follow a bodybuilder's routine, but any athlete could gain knowledge from a well seasoned bodybuilder about weight gain/loss dieting...

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