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Quick question.

1. I send a runner on third to steal home.
2. The catcher gets excited and comes out to catch the ball before it reaches the plate.
3. The hitter swings at the pitch and hits the catcher.

Is that interference. Runner is safe and batter is on first?

Also what is the call if you bunt and pull back or try to bunt the ball and miss.
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I thought on catcher's interference, the base runner's only advanced if forced forward by the batter reaching first base...

I must've had this wrong?
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I'm with you, thought it was a deadball, runner back to third hitter gets first base.
Last edited by standballdad
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Originally posted by standballdad:
I thought on catcher's interference, the base runner's only advanced if forced forward by the batter reaching first base...

I must've had this wrong?
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I'm with you, thought it was a deadball, runner back to third hitter gets first base.


Y'all are correct when there is no steal or squeeze attempt.
Remember this is only for NCAA and Official Baseball Rules.

It's a double wammy if R3 is stealing home and there is catchers interference. It's CI and a balk. The runner scores and all runners move up one base (this only applies to a dim witted R2 only that stayed on 2nd).

In high school rules, the runner scores and the CI is enforced. R2 would stay on 2nd unless he was stealing 3rd.

Most think baseball is a simple game and umpiring is easy but we have to remember not only the obscure rules for one league but the rules for other leagues as well. It will make you go gray pretty quick.
Last edited by Forest Ump
When stealing home we have the batter intentionally swing hight to keep the catcher back. Runner slides out in front of the plate. Have signals for all involved so that we know everyone is on the same page.

Here is some heads up for you umpires. This becomes a very busy play with the pitch coming in, catcher moving, batter swinging high, and runner sliding in. Over 50% of the time the umpires do not call a strike on a ball out of the zone even though we were swinging.
Last edited by d8
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Originally posted by d8:
When stealing home we have the batter intentionally swing hight to keep the catcher back.


Could you explain your thought in "keep(ing) the catcher back," please? Are you saying that if you weren't swinging, the catcher would jump up and get into the plate area before the pitch arrives?
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Originally posted by d8:
Yes. We have had this happen. Never got a call for the catcher being out front so we added the high swing


Then instead of risking life and limb to your runner and the catcher, how about this:

If the catcher comes in front of the plate to receive a pitched ball and the umpire doesn't call it as he should, calmly walk out and ask what happened. If he admits the catcher prevented your batter a chance at the ball, you ask him why he didn't call it. When he gives a stupid answer, follow your protest procedures. It's an obvious misapplication of the rules, and you should win all the protests.

It's a lot better than R3 or F2 taking a bat to the face.
We would square as if to bunt and then pull the bat back as the ball came in. This would sometimes distract the catcher, but it would also normally keep the catcher back. When we stole home my senior year, I went to pull the bat back and the end went right into the catcher's glove as he attempted to lunge forward. The ball went to the backstop..
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Originally posted by yawetag:
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Originally posted by d8:
Yes. We have had this happen. Never got a call for the catcher being out front so we added the high swing


Then instead of risking life and limb to your runner and the catcher, how about this:

If the catcher comes in front of the plate to receive a pitched ball and the umpire doesn't call it as he should, calmly walk out and ask what happened. If he admits the catcher prevented your batter a chance at the ball, you ask him why he didn't call it. When he gives a stupid answer, follow your protest procedures. It's an obvious misapplication of the rules, and you should win all the protests.

It's a lot better than R3 or F2 taking a bat to the face.


Only problem with this is some states do not allow any kind of protest at the high school level. So if the ump blows this call then you're stuck with it.
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Originally posted by coach2709:
And where did you get that from my post????? I was just pointing out that your solution won't work in certain states. You were totally off with your last post.


You're right, and after posting it I realized as such. My thought process was that whether a protest is available or not, a coach should never use swinging at the pitch as a maneuver to keep F2 back from a straight steal of home.

There are rules that force F2 to remain behind the plate until the pitch crosses, and a coach should use that rule to ensure the game is played fairly (and safely).

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