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stepping on plate while bunting

T TP10+ posts
Last night my son's HS team was on the road for a tough division game. The officiating was suspect from the start. We were down 1-0 in the top of the 4th with the bases loaded and one out. The batter swung at a pitch and obviously hit the catchers mitt. Even though the catcher rolled over on his side holding his glove hand in pain and everyone in the park heard it ,not one of the 3 umpires saw or heard anything. on the next pitch the batter executed a squeeze but and was called out for stepping on the plate. Lets just say it got ugly and our coach got tossed. The next batter lined out to 2nd and ended the inning. We lost 3-0.
What I never thought about until this morning is on the squeeze play, the runner was returned to 3rd base. My question is, when the batter was called out for stepping on the plate, is that a dead ball? Because if its not, then the run should have scored.
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T TP10+ posts
I think that FED says it's an out if you touch the plate with any part of the foot while batting the ball. The others just look at whether or not the foot is out of the box. I just didn't know if it was a dead ball. Sounds like they got it right but they were a terrible crew all the way around. Both coaches were on thin ice after 2 innings.
MU Mr Umpire100+ posts
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Originally posted by TP:
I think that FED says it's an out if you touch the plate with any part of the foot while batting the ball. The others just look at whether or not the foot is out of the box. I just didn't know if it was a dead ball. Sounds like they got it right but they were a terrible crew all the way around. Both coaches were on thin ice after 2 innings.

I just assumed it to be understood that the ball has to be hit while illegally hitting the ball. Shouldn't do that on a forum. I know.
Midlo DadMidlo Dad10,000+ posts
While they may have missed the catcher's interference call, the call on the squeeze attempt was correct. So arguing that because of one bad call, they should've made another bad call, was not likely to keep your coach in the game.

What did he say, "Two wrongs make a right, ump"?

Another thing to consider is that, even if he had missed the bunt attempt, by not being in the box the batter risks being called for interfering with the catcher's potential play on the oncoming runner.
T TP10+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Midlo Dad:
While they may have missed the catcher's interference call, the call on the squeeze attempt was correct. So arguing that because of one bad call, they should've made another bad call, was not likely to keep your coach in the game.

What did he say, "Two wrongs make a right, ump"?

Another thing to consider is that, even if he had missed the bunt attempt, by not being in the box the batter risks being called for interfering with the catcher's potential play on the oncoming runner.


I think the argument was somethimg along the lines of " you can't hear a bat hit a mitt or see the catcher rolling around holding his hand that was just hit by a bat, but you can clearly see my batter step on the plate". I understand that if he stepped on the plate while bunting, that he is out.The coach getting tossed was a culmination of an erratic strike zone, followed by a blown call, ending with a call, (which was the correct call), that basically took us out of a big inning. My question was did the ball become dead after the batter was called out for stepping on the plate, to which the answer was YES. The rest of the story was just window dressing.

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