steroid use by teens?

If it's the Yahoo article you're referring to, it was poorly done. Protein powder and Creatine are not steroids and they were somehow lumped together in the article.

Also, the numbers of kids supposedly doing steroids seemed ridiculously high.

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Originally posted by playball2011:
Know of teammate using creatin....

KIDS TODAY ARE ALL HOPPED UP ON CRETINS!!!

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Originally posted by playball2011:
Thoughts on article out about teens steroid,and even protein powder on rise. My son has tried protein powder short term and didn't do much to be honest. He's not a big eater so hoped it would help put on some weight. Know of teammate using creatin after discusing first with dr. Suspect steroids with some of schools football players, but who really knows. Don't see many big baseball players around here and those that are usu play football too.

Haven't read the article. Link?

Hate to say it, but I believe steroids are still being used by the occasional HS football player, often smaller faster guys that feel they need an edge. I can spot roid rage, it was too common place when I was playing in the late 70's & early 80's. My oldest witnessed it some in HS. My oldest ended up giving up baseball for college football & his diet & workout routine & those of his teammates are off the chart and very closely monitored. No roids!

At the HS baseball level, locally we have seen a few teams where the varsity bunch was far from average sized or scrawny. Many times genetics & workout habits produce an above average sized lineup of 6-2, 6-3, 6-4 195-210-215 lb'ers. My youngest works out very hard in the off season, he also eats a lot & is on a very healthy diet. Since early Sept, he's added nearly 15 lbs of muscle mass & grown a 1/2". Locally, there are quite a few HS players combining Fall workouts with protein shakes, mass weight gainers & the like, with occasional creatin use. Creatin can be very hard on the kidneys & most Dr's ok'ing it, will only do so, after warning the athlete to drink a lot of water every day. 3 or 4 weeks on and off of creatin is something else that I've heard suggested. My oldest worked out & tried Creatin when he was Soph & early Junior in HS.

The State of Florida set up a random steroid testing program for 53 schools, a pilot program. This was in 2008, after all the Barry Bonds/Clemens/Congress hype over steroids. The State tested 600 student/athletes randomly and found exactly one positive result. The program was cancelled.

Florida Testing Program

Does JUCO test for anything?

If the article includes Creatine and Protein supplements I would expect numbers to be very high!

Steroids...not so much, but it is out there.

Protein and Creatine aided my son in his development, and no adverse effects to our knowledge.

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Originally posted by floridafan:
Protein and Creatine aided my son in his development, and no adverse effects to our knowledge.

Thanks for sharing. My son started using Protein and Creatine this fall. When I first heard of it I went on a research rage. Luckily, what I learned was very calming. Like anything else, too much is not good but basically the body rejects the creatine it does not need. As to protein, if you are pigging out on a sirloin steak dinner, you should lower the supplement use that day. Not a doctor, nor did I stay at a holiday inn express, so its good to also hear from the voice of experience (floridafan).

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any and all supplements particularlycreatine should only be used under the guidance of a licensed trainer

There isn't a single player I know at the college level that doesn't take some sort of protein-based supplement. In fact, the strength and conditioning coaches at my school provide us with protein shakes after each lifting session.

I only know a few that have actually taken some form of steroid that is banned.

PEDs are not cheap and the usage of them is not easy. There are loading periods, deloading periods, boosters and the likes that are necessary to make the usage worthwhile and relatively safe.

If an amateur athlete is taking steroids, it may not be so obvious physically. But, its also VERY difficult for them to do it without someone noticing a significant difference in lifestyle and behavioral aspects to the individual.

Unfortunately, I will attest to the fact that PEDs are extremely easy to obtain. I have had firsthand experience with opportunities to obtain different substances through several outlets, all of which approached the subject with confidence.

redsoxfan21-perfect move. Only way to discuss this topic is with being educated about it. Body not so much rejects excess creatine as just passes excess out as urine. We all ingest creatine in one form or another. If you eat red meat-steak as an example- you are taking in a good amount of creatine. Herring is another food that is loaded with creatine. Body actually needs some creatine to function. Many studies suggest creatine good for heart health.among other things. As far as steriod and other ped usage goes there still is a very large number of high schoolers and college kids using. Floridas ped testing program for high schoolers is a joke. We as parents need to be really informed on the real effects of these things. research is our best friend and we must keep out all the noise of missinformation.That is the only way we can truly have a good conversation with our youth on this matter.