This thread got me thinking about Exit Velo off a tee and there's a thread on it (hitting forum) that I located...
http://community.hsbaseballweb...ed-tee-exit-velocity
According to a link in the thread (efastball.com, I think)
these are the average(?) exit below off a tee for HS age.
70s,low 80s 9th
80s JV
mid 80s Varsity
(90-95)
(104 max drafted player)
Is this in line with what most of you see for exit velocities listed by age?
I think that mid 80s is well above average for a HS Player.
of course truely good HS Players that are D1 prospects hit 90+ but if you take all HS Players that average is probably closer to mid 70s (obviously higher in a strong program in Texas or california).
You will never throw as hard as you have the potential to throw unless you have the intent to throw as hard as you can. It's a mindset. You will never mash unless you have the intent to mash. Young hitters should not be taught to fear striking out. They should not be taught to fear two strike counts. They should not be taught to take pitches and work counts. They should be taught to hunt. They should be taught aggression. There are different approaches in different situations they can learn as they progress in the game. There is one swing though. Your swing. The one that allows you to do maximum damage on the most consistent basis.
Too many young hitters are so afraid of failure and not having a quality at bat they never learn to hunt. They are taught they are being hunted and don't get caught. As hitters get older and the pitchers subsequently get older they hunt a little differently. But they still hunt.
Swing hard , swing fast , punish it , mash it , etc. Don't over swing , don't chase , shorten up put it in play , etc. Aggressive hitters who are looking to mash vs passive hitters who are afraid they will fail.
Which of these groups will still be playing when they begin to learn the finer points? Many kids learn to hate the game because they were taught not to fail instead of attack and have fun. Striking out ain't a big deal man. Dribbling one to second so you don't is.
We can talk about balance, not over swinging, etc etc. But that will never enter into the conversation if the kid is mentally beat before he steps in the box. Swing hard - it's supposed to be fun. Or make sure you make contact - don't strike out!
Dominik85 posted:I think that mid 80s is well above average for a HS Player.
of course truely good HS Players that are D1 prospects hit 90+ but if you take all HS Players that average is probably closer to mid 70s (obviously higher in a strong program in Texas or california).
It may be. I went back and checked the link. The footnote for the metric mentioned that the information was sourced from a top rated local high school.
Coach_May posted:You will never throw as hard as you have the potential to throw unless you have the intent to throw as hard as you can. It's a mindset. You will never mash unless you have the intent to mash. Young hitters should not be taught to fear striking out. They should not be taught to fear two strike counts. They should not be taught to take pitches and work counts. They should be taught to hunt. They should be taught aggression. There are different approaches in different situations they can learn as they progress in the game. There is one swing though. Your swing. The one that allows you to do maximum damage on the most consistent basis.
Too many young hitters are so afraid of failure and not having a quality at bat they never learn to hunt. They are taught they are being hunted and don't get caught. As hitters get older and the pitchers subsequently get older they hunt a little differently. But they still hunt.
Swing hard , swing fast , punish it , mash it , etc. Don't over swing , don't chase , shorten up put it in play , etc. Aggressive hitters who are looking to mash vs passive hitters who are afraid they will fail.
Which of these groups will still be playing when they begin to learn the finer points? Many kids learn to hate the game because they were taught not to fail instead of attack and have fun. Striking out ain't a big deal man. Dribbling one to second so you don't is.
We can talk about balance, not over swinging, etc etc. But that will never enter into the conversation if the kid is mentally beat before he steps in the box. Swing hard - it's supposed to be fun. Or make sure you make contact - don't strike out!
If there were a hall of fame of posts, I'd nominate this one from Coach May!
Take signs on 2-0 counts are an abomination.
PGStaff posted:All good points.
if you have a hammer and want to drive a nail all the way in with one swing, would you swing that hammer as hard as you can? Or would you swing it as hard as you can accurately?
we used to actually do this with old bats and spikes into a wooden pole. We would set the spike at a fast ball plane and have hitters try to drive it in. Many bent spikes along the way, but I think they learned something. You can't accomplish much with a weak swing. Your not accurate enough with an over swing.
I have never encountered that drill. I love that! Going to have to try that!
Coach_May posted:You will never throw as hard as you have the potential to throw unless you have the intent to throw as hard as you can. It's a mindset. You will never mash unless you have the intent to mash. Young hitters should not be taught to fear striking out. They should not be taught to fear two strike counts. They should not be taught to take pitches and work counts. They should be taught to hunt. They should be taught aggression. There are different approaches in different situations they can learn as they progress in the game. There is one swing though. Your swing. The one that allows you to do maximum damage on the most consistent basis.
Too many young hitters are so afraid of failure and not having a quality at bat they never learn to hunt. They are taught they are being hunted and don't get caught. As hitters get older and the pitchers subsequently get older they hunt a little differently. But they still hunt.
Swing hard , swing fast , punish it , mash it , etc. Don't over swing , don't chase , shorten up put it in play , etc. Aggressive hitters who are looking to mash vs passive hitters who are afraid they will fail.
Which of these groups will still be playing when they begin to learn the finer points? Many kids learn to hate the game because they were taught not to fail instead of attack and have fun. Striking out ain't a big deal man. Dribbling one to second so you don't is.
We can talk about balance, not over swinging, etc etc. But that will never enter into the conversation if the kid is mentally beat before he steps in the box. Swing hard - it's supposed to be fun. Or make sure you make contact - don't strike out!
Our coaches preach the "ground ball to the right side." I changed it for my kid -- "Hit a double to the right side." 
2020Dad,
We didnt spend a lot of time doing that drill. It is hard on the hands, that pole doesn't give. we did use the phrase "drive the spike" afterwards quite a bit. Don't think anyone knew what we were talking about other than our players.
PlayWithEffort posted:This thread got me thinking about Exit Velo off a tee and there's a thread on it (hitting forum) that I located...
http://community.hsbaseballweb...ed-tee-exit-velocity
According to a link in the thread (efastball.com, I think)
these are the average(?) exit below off a tee for HS age.
70s,low 80s 9th
80s JV
mid 80s Varsity
(90-95)
(104 max drafted player)
Is this in line with what most of you see for exit velocities listed by age?
Perfect Game has the Trackman system that will record the max exit velo, max hitting distance and max pitching velo and spin rate max for fastball and breaking ball. My son's numbers were recorded a couple of weekends ago.
