Team loses 91-0, parent cries bullying

It would have been "unsportsman" if the winning coach left his starters in for most of the game.  As it was he took them out after 21 plays and went to a conservative ground game.

 

What's he suppose to do?  Just have the QB kneel on every play? 

 

I don't like to see blow outs but the plain fact is sometime you run into a buzz saw.  The winning team was simply that much better and the losing team was just that bad.

 

Back when I played HS football we blew out one of our district opponents 58-0 on their home field.  Second and third string were in the game in the 2nd half.  The next year we beat them 62-6.  Nobody every accused our team of "bullying", but being 30+ years ago it was a different time.  You took your lumps and moved on.

 

Sorry, no one ever said life was "fair".  In fact, many times it isn't.

If your son never got to play. Would you want him to try when he did? If he came in with his team way up would you want him to give it his all? So its up to the coach to try and coach in a manner that shows good sportsmanship. Play calling. Mass subs. Not taking a knee on 1st down, punting on 1st down, etc. And coaching just as hard for every parents son no matter what the score is. And sometimes teams are just overmatched.

Parents your child learns nothing when you make him a victim except how to have a victims mentality. We're getting real good at that.

It's "unsportsmanlike" to show up with a totally unprepared and ill equipped team...and lose 91-0.

Yep. And if your going to get upset get upset about the fact your not capable of competing.

These are the same type of people that think teams practice too much. Practice too hard. Require too much in the off season. Complain that the coaches take it too serious. And get mad when their kids can't miss practice to attend burthday parties.

It's the pussification of America at work by parents that were trained to do it. Sorry if this offends. But it's the truth.

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It's not unsportsmanlike when an opponent can't stop the end of the bench from scoring. The end of the bench works hard in practice too. They don't deserve to have to take a knee.

 

The coach knows his opponents before the game more so in football than baseball.  The coach is capable of doing many things to prevent a 91 to 0 score.  How about putting in a player at QB that has never played that position before?  Bring some JV players.  Just two examples of many.  There is no excuse for this behavior.  You do not embarrass or humiliate opponents.

Are you for real? This has to be a joke....

 

Hey let's put players out of position because that is good sports too!

 

NO, that is even more unsportsmanlike. Showing the opposing team up by putting guys in wacky spots.  Oh, and especially in football, let's do this and risk guys getting injured more because they are playing positions they never have before. 

 

What if your JV guys are better than the other team too? What then?? If this is how you feel about sports and coach up your own kids, then I hope they learn some more valuable lessons elsewhere.

 

 

And the bottom line mdschert, the only person apparently "humiliated" by this was the parent who reported it.  The coaching staff and players of that losing team said it was fine and done how it should have been. 

 

Has anyone that is whining about this ever competed in a team sport? 

91 to 0 is too big of a spread to be called sportsmanlike.  I disagree with the characterization of the opposing team, I believe they were embarrassed and humiliated, put yourself in their shoes.  The only point I am trying to make is that it is wrong to rub your opponents face in your victory.  Sorry but no one will convince me that a 91 to 0 is not a rub in your face victory.

91-0 is a wide spread...If we translate this to Baseball where 1 run=7 points...It would be 13-0...If 1 run=6 points it would be 15-0...Either way it would be a run rule.  In football there aren't any run rules...When a 2nd...3rd...4th...string player has a chance to showcase their talent they should take advantage of it.  If you haven't been a part of a team that has been in a game like this it may be hard to understand. Most teams that have this kind of a point spread make the playoffs...This game did very little to help them prepare for the playoffs.  This is the type of game backup players get the chance to better themselves.

 

THEY WERE EMBARRASSED??? Welcome to the reality of LIFE. Typical response you expect from a self absobed narcissist. If I can't win then no one should win. LET'S ALL GET A TROPHY. Here is an idea - If you don't want them to score so many points, stop them from scoring. They cannot help it if you are an inferior team. Try tipping you hat to them, admitting they are superior team and strive to reach their level of excellence. Contrary to what approx 47% of our country seems to think, there are inferior individuals dependent upon the generosity/tolerance of the other 53%. 

You must know absolutely nothing about football. Playing an unfamiliar position is a great way to get injured. Why shouldn't the third or fourth string Qb play? He's been practicing hard all season including 100 degree two a days. I guarantee you the jv players played if they were dressed. What would have been more humiliating would have been to do it your way. It would have been a statement ... You stink so bad we don't have to take the game seriously. The losing coach had no issue with what happened. Why do you? Just put a skirt and bubble wrap on your kid. Give him a feather bed to land in when life isn't easy.

I think the discontented poster played jv pillow fighting.

What boggles my mind is how many people get so caught up in the actual event in life (in this case a blowout 91 - 0 loss for one team and win for another team) and how bad it must be for the emotional well being for everyone that we forget that the actual important thing is what the winners and losers do after the event is what matters most.  Yes getting beat that bad stinks but a winner is going to try and learn something from it.  That you need to get better, that you never give up in the face of overwhelming odds, that you see how the other team wins with class or lacks class and all kinds of other things.  Or you could get beat that bad and don't accept the fact that you lost but look to blame others for you feeling that bad.  The other team shouldn't have scored so many points made me feel bad.  The other team doesn't have any class because they made me feel bad. So thinking like this tells you what?  That other people control how you feel and you're going to do nothing about it.

 

I've been on both ends of blowouts.  The smelly end ticks me off because I hate losing, I hate being inferior but it is what it is and it's my job as the coach to find something positive out of it.  Something I can use to teach my guys how to be better people out of it or better players out of it.  Sometimes it's hard to do this but it has to be done.

 

In blowout wins I've done more coaching in the time where we played subs that I did the entire week of practice building up to the game with starters.  When those subs get in the game they are excited and they lack experience in what to do.  So now it's our job to put them in a position to succeed because they have earned that spotlight time in the game.

 

A coach has a responsibility to their team to do everything in their power to help them.  Coaches preach this, schools preach this and society preaches this to our kids.  So you got this senior who has played four years and he's not very good.  But he shows up everyday in practice, goes as hard as he can, works as hard as he can, does everything you ask of him, represents your program with class and is loved by his team mates.  Now you're in this game where you're up by a lot so you put this senior in to play.  How does this conversation sound to you if you're the player or you're the parent of this player.

 

Coach = "Hey Johnny we're going to put you in at running back but when you get to the line of scrimmage we want you to fall down."

 

Johnny = "But coach I think I can probably pick up a few yards and help us move the chains.  You keep talking about how each play we need to pick up yards so the offense can score.  I want to go hard coach.  I love hearing your speeches about how we need to go hard in practice.  I want to make you proud of me coach."

 

Coach = "Johnny I love your attitude but seriously you need to go down at the line of scrimmage.  We'll get to fourth down and punt the ball over to them."

 

Johnny = "Coach, I want to play.....I want to go hard.  My mom and dad have came to every game and they get to see me play."

 

Coach = "Johnny I'm sorry but you need to go down at the line of scrimmage.  But don't make it obvious.  In fact run toward one of their guys so they can tackle you."

 

Johnny = "Coach I don't understand"

 

Coach = "Well see Johnny the starters scored a lot of points and we are up big.  But we have to win with class and not show up the other team.  Those players over there feel really bad about losing this game this bad.  We can't make them feel any worse because it's not right.  So go in there and take the handoff and run into one of their players."

 

So in reality the outcome is the losing team is still going to feel bad because whether you lose by two points or forty two points you still feel bad and one of your most loyal players feels betrayed and outcast.  Anytime you now make that speech in practice about working hard and team first you look foolish.  Not only does Johnny know you're full of it but so does the rest of the team because they saw what you did.  I see no logic in that.  Yes I'm sorry the other team isn't as good as we are but I have to look at my kids everyday in practice.  I'm going to do what's best for my team because that's my job.

Totally agree coach! Kids get over these setbacks right away. It's just some of the parents who make it a big deal, especially today it seems.

This is precisely the reason so many kids drop out of baseball.  Any sport, for that matter.  Baseball is a game of failure.  Whether you get pounded as a pitcher or go 0 - 5 at the plate with a Golden Sombrero, there is so much failure.

 

Looking back at Bum, Jr.'s days in baseball, I remember the kids who struck out that quit, that gave up seven runs in an IP that quit, or how about the kid whose dad pulled him out of the game in the middle of an inning because the coach yelled at him when he made two errors.  I've seen kids quit because their girlfriend left them for another guy.  I've seen kids quit because they felt they couldn't compete.  I'm guessing 90% of the players Bum, Jr. has been teammates with have eventually quit.

 

That's what these guys on the other end of the 91 - 0 score did.  They quit.  Undoubtedly, they went into the game knowing the other team was trouncing all of their opponents, and submitted.

 

Submit to nothing.  Baseball (or football) is a game of attrition and hang up your cleats only when your coach tells you you're not good enough.  Only the mentally tough survive this game.  Just like the real world.

 

 

 

 

 

And that is why it is so difficult to make it to the pro's.  The mental toughness it takes for a player to keep pushing himself to get to that level is astounding.

I know two MLB guys, former teammates of 04. One guy was in three different MLB teams' minor league systems in 2012, twice with the same team and really was not thriving. I think the reason he reached the big leagues is his attitude was he still had 27 more teams that he hadn't been fired by. He had 15 saves IN 17 chances to end his rookie (2013) season.....standing 5'9".

 

The other one rocketed through the minors,  reaching the big leagues for good, but not even on the 40 man roster prior, in less than three years. Yet, even he asked himself what the hell he was doing on a bus in the middle of the night in Wyoming, his first year in pro ball, wondering why his life had gone down the drain.......

 

As long as you are not hurt you still have a chance.

RJM - calm down, I merely gave two examples of what a coach can do to help not to score 91 points.  Use your own examples, there are many options.   You totally missed my point I was trying to make.  You need to learn how to communicate in a written way without coming across as arrogant and angry.  There is no reason for your contemptuous nature.  We can all be gentlemen on this board.