For there to be an injustice here, there has to be z person/people involved.
TPM posted:He is definetly there for a reason, but its not because he is a top 30 prospect.
AFL batting stats - AFL stats
C'mon, he doesn't look as bad as Kevin Cron.
I'm not an expert on Sabermetrics, but I think a .333 OPS for a power hitter is just a little below ideal.
This is an interesting site, Rob. There are a number of "top 30" type guys who have been playing for a number of years, and have made it through various levels of MiLB. These aren't guys trying to get their swings back. And they are doing pretty abysmally bad right along side of Tebow. Maybe it's just a tough league.
What a relief to find the unfollow topic... blowing up my inbox.. I could barely see the email regarding the FBI reopening Hillarys email investigation.
Go Cubs!!!
Gov posted:What a relief to find the unfollow topic... blowing up my inbox.. I could barely see the email regarding the FBI reopening Hillarys email investigation.
Go Cubs!!!
Lol. This is why I like you, Gov.
Even if you never will read this post.
Teaching Elder posted:This is an interesting site, Rob. There are a number of "top 30" type guys who have been playing for a number of years, and have made it through various levels of MiLB. These aren't guys trying to get their swings back. And they are doing pretty abysmally bad right along side of Tebow. Maybe it's just a tough league.
What are their ages? TT is going to be 30. Who and why do teams send 30 year olds to a top prospect league?
Teaching Elder posted:This is an interesting site, Rob. There are a number of "top 30" type guys who have been playing for a number of years, and have made it through various levels of MiLB. These aren't guys trying to get their swings back. And they are doing pretty abysmally bad right along side of Tebow. Maybe it's just a tough league.
It's not traditionally a tough league for batters. The pitching can be spotty because top end guys that have thrown a lot of innings are shut down by that point. You do get some guys who end up being good, but aren't quite there yet.
The season isn't over yet, but at this point, Tebow's OPS is lower than anyone in the league for the last 10 years.
Who you like best off that list? I like the Gleyber Torres kid. SS hitting .357 with 5 extra base hits including 3 taters in 28 abs. I wonder what his defense looks like?
I'm guessing all the Tebow talk will be over by the all star break next season. By then the Mets will realize it's not working. That's if Tebow doesn't figure it out first.
it can be easily argued Tebow doesn't deserve to be in the AZL. But because the Mets made the foolish decision to sign Tebow they need to find out quickly what a 30yo (next season) has. It doesn't look like much. I figure he's gone by the all star break next year with a sub .200 BA. If he undeservedly makes the all star game in his league with undeserving stats we will know the fix is in.
Heres a couple of things to keep in mind. 1) NY is a very competitive media market. How much have the Yankees been in the news since Tebow's signing? 2) The Mets own their low A affiliate. They will make money with Tebow packing the house in a Florida stadium. The signing makes perfect business sense.
I'm indifferent to Tebow as a person. A lot of athletes and everyday citizens do a lot for charity. He's not special. It's the illogical support of Tebow as an NFL QB and baseball player I find annoying.
I agree that Tebow is there because the Mets want a very quick analysis of what he can do. Do you think they'll give up on $100k prior to next year's all star break? I don't think that jersey sales and gate receipts will have paid for him by then. Don't they split jersey profits?
I don't see Tebow just giving up easily. He's not that type of guy. Mets have money invested in him. He'll be around for a couple of years.
Teaching Elder posted:I agree that Tebow is there because the Mets want a very quick analysis of what he can do. Do you think they'll give up on $100k prior to next year's all star break? I don't think that jersey sales and gate receipts will have paid for him by then. Don't they split jersey profits?
I don't see Tebow just giving up easily. He's not that type of guy. Mets have money invested in him. He'll be around for a couple of years.
Milb until he is in his 30s? That would make him more of a spectical than a player.
Where will you put him, what level? With 17,18 year old latin players in the GCL?
They are selling his jersey and he hasnt made a ML roster, who does that? Why?
I think they sent him to get rid of him, for prospects, you know, heres an attraction. I dont think they expected these results. He is playing against much younger pitchers and he still cant hit.
He does have the option to walk away and pay back his bonus.
Teaching Elder posted:I agree that Tebow is there because the Mets want a very quick analysis of what he can do. Do you think they'll give up on $100k prior to next year's all star break? I don't think that jersey sales and gate receipts will have paid for him by then. Don't they split jersey profits?
I don't see Tebow just giving up easily. He's not that type of guy. Mets have money invested in him. He'll be around for a couple of years.
I believe Tebow has to make it through all of A ball next year and go from AA to MLB the following year or he's released. The only exception would be if he's starting the third season in AAA with the expectation he's up before the all star break.
I believe the Tebow jersey violated the players's association contract. He's not on the 40 man roster. The Mets had to get a waiver.
TPM posted:Teaching Elder posted:I agree that Tebow is there because the Mets want a very quick analysis of what he can do. Do you think they'll give up on $100k prior to next year's all star break? I don't think that jersey sales and gate receipts will have paid for him by then. Don't they split jersey profits?
I don't see Tebow just giving up easily. He's not that type of guy. Mets have money invested in him. He'll be around for a couple of years.
Milb until he is in his 30s? That would make him more of a spectical than a player.
It is what it is. Being out of place is no reason not to do something.
He really doesn't care what people think. Maybe that's what bothers people the most. He's not a controllable will.
Where will you put him, what level? With 17,18 year old latin players in the GCL?
That is for the Mets to determine. But, I would expect him to go where he would be if he was an 18 -21 y/o - High A.
They are selling his jersey and he hasnt made a ML roster, who does that? Why?
The Mets knew that he was going to be popular right out of the gate. Are they selling very many? If so, he is in demand. Smart move Mets.
I think they sent him to get rid of him, for prospects, you know, heres an attraction. I dont think they expected these results. He is playing against much younger pitchers and he still cant hit.
He hasn't played in a number of years and is hitting as well as a number of other top prospects in the AFL. Granted, his numbers aren't good, but it's not like he's terrible and everyone else is great. He has 33 abs in a young career. You are a baseball savvy person. You should know that a guy can be 0 for 25 in a blink of an eye in pro-ball.
He does have the option to walk away and pay back his bonus.
He may pay back his bonus, but I don't really see him quitting. He likes what he's doing. If he actually makes his team money, he's already more valuable than most every other MiLB player out there. Let him play until he's 60 if he wants to.
Doesn't work that way.
TPM posted:Doesn't work that way.
What doesn't?
Seems its gotten way over your head. Do some homework.
No. You could simply be more specific and even forthcoming rather than constantly retreating your favorite dismissive riposte of implying that you are superior in knowledge to whomever you are disagreeing with at the time. It's unhelpful and comes off as extremely snotty.
I am quite capable of swimming in the intellectual deep water.
http://nypost.com/2016/11/18/s...son-will-soldier-on/
After starting 0 for 13, he hit .245 the rest of the way. Good for him. "Not an embarrassment" (as an unnamed executive was quoted in the article). But not a prospect, either.
2019Dad posted:http://nypost.com/2016/11/18/s...son-will-soldier-on/
After starting 0 for 13, he hit .245 the rest of the way. Good for him. "Not an embarrassment" (as an unnamed executive was quoted in the article). But not a prospect, either.
yes he didn't embarrass himself (low average but reasonable K rate against good competition) but he clearly is not a prospect and most scouts knew that after his first workout.
what I don't understand is the hatred against him acting like HE is betraying MLB, baseball and other prospects by getting a chance he did not deserve.
if anyone would be to blame it would be the Mets who milked the popularity of football to make money despite knowing what they got with Tebow.
Tebow did not harm anyone, he was used by the owners of the Mets as a marketing gimmick to gain the Mets publicity and money.