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The proponents/believers do have me thinking.  It would be a GREAT storyline for baseball if he got far enough in someone's system to see if he could really do it.  Could you imagine his MLB debut?

I have always disliked the guy.  Not because he is a Christian or expresses his faith publicly -- I keep that stuff out of it and like others, I get that on Sunday mornings. I do respect him personally.

My teams were just always on the opposite side of his during his college glory days, and he repeatedly whipped our butts, and he sure as hell enjoyed it while he was doing it!  Not more complicated than that, he's one of those guys in sports.

BUT, if he made it to MLB, or even high MiLB?  Darn right I would be watching every AB I could!  It would be one heckuva story and you would have to watch!

I'm not a Tebow fan. But, I can respect a guy who sets a goal and goes after it. Who knows if he'll make it or not. All we can do is speculate (some people's speculation is better than others). My biggest question, besides his hitting, is his speed. As an outfield "prospect", I imagine he needs some pretty impressive speed. As I said, not a fan, so I've never followed his career and I have no idea what his speed looks like. Anybody have insight on that?

Stafford posted:

Thoughts?

My thoughts....I'm feeling sorry for whoever was suppose to have that spot in MLB.  Tebow hasn't played a baseball game in 10 years and yet he's going to fly through the system because of the wow factor.

I'm not saying he isn't a great athlete, he very much is.  What I'm saying is there are better baseball players than Tebow and one of them may miss their shot at MLB because Tebow beat them on name recognition, rather than talent.

It's "Unfair" that Tebow got a big athletic body by birth.  It's "unfair" that he got a drive to win that others don't have by accident of birth.  It's "unfair" that Tebow got to play at Florida and have a great career.  It's "unfair" that he gets to be on television.  It's "unfair" that everyone knows his name.  It's "unfair" that he gets opportunities that others don't because of it.  It's "unfair" that he can make a club money and be a draw to games because of all the aforementioned "unfair" advantages he has.

It's "unfair" that Trout and Harper have great baseball skills by birth.  It's "unfair" that they have big athletic bodies to complement their skills. It's "unfair" that they also had strong work ethics.  It's "unfair" that they get paid millions for these God given talents.  It's "unfair" that these God given talents are keeping other good players out of the MLB.  

It's "unfair" that Nolan Ryan had an inborn knowledge of how to throw a ball very hard, and the size to go with it.  It's "unfair' that he never won a Cy Young.

It's "unfair" that Derek Jeter was a very good baseball player and was good looking too and dated some incredible women.  It's unfair that a lot of good short stops got drafted to the Yankees but never got a chance, because Jeter had a choke hold on the position.

We've become such and "unfair", "I'm a victim" society.

Don't teach this stuff to your kids.

Teaching Elder posted:

Reading comp is not your strong suit is it.  Go back and read a little.

I just did a control F search on all of page 1 and 2 and the first time the word unfair was used was by you. 

Obviously you feel the situation of Trout and Harper having good bodies is unfair and you have a serious disagreement with Derek Jeter's girlfriends and position.  Take a deep breath and remember:

"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it people like me"

      -Church Lady circa 1990

CaCO3Girl posted:
Stafford posted:

Thoughts?

My thoughts....I'm feeling sorry for whoever was suppose to have that spot in MLB.  Tebow hasn't played a baseball game in 10 years and yet he's going to fly through the system because of the wow factor.

I'm not saying he isn't a great athlete, he very much is.  What I'm saying is there are better baseball players than Tebow and one of them may miss their shot at MLB because Tebow beat them on name recognition, rather than talent.

MTH posted:

NOT ONE of the prior posts said anything was "unfair", or begrudged Tebow any of his accomplishments.   Take your political BS to some whackadoodle political message board.  

Uh.....the word unfair isn't in the above post....but that certainly seems to be the insinuation

 

Teaching Elder posted:

It's "Unfair" that Tebow got a big athletic body by birth.  It's "unfair" that he got a drive to win that others don't have by accident of birth.  It's "unfair" that Tebow got to play at Florida and have a great career.  It's "unfair" that he gets to be on television.  It's "unfair" that everyone knows his name.  It's "unfair" that he gets opportunities that others don't because of it.  It's "unfair" that he can make a club money and be a draw to games because of all the aforementioned "unfair" advantages he has.

It's "unfair" that Trout and Harper have great baseball skills by birth.  It's "unfair" that they have big athletic bodies to complement their skills. It's "unfair" that they also had strong work ethics.  It's "unfair" that they get paid millions for these God given talents.  It's "unfair" that these God given talents are keeping other good players out of the MLB.  

It's "unfair" that Nolan Ryan had an inborn knowledge of how to throw a ball very hard, and the size to go with it.  It's "unfair' that he never won a Cy Young.

It's "unfair" that Derek Jeter was a very good baseball player and was good looking too and dated some incredible women.  It's unfair that a lot of good short stops got drafted to the Yankees but never got a chance, because Jeter had a choke hold on the position.

We've become such and "unfair", "I'm a victim" society.

Don't teach this stuff to your kids.

Yo Teach, you having a bad day?

 

Smile it is only small argument on a fairly insignificant topic that most likely will not ever materialize into anything!!

"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it people like me"

That was not the Church Lady.  That was Stuart Smalley.  But I get the picture.  You're trying to take an oblique shot at my profession.

"Unfair" was insinuated throughout your post.  It's that same thing that was said when Michael Jordan played.  Same thing when Jim Morris went back.   Way too easily thrown around.  Cliched argument that is easily debunked.

Teaching Elder posted:

"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it people like me"

That was not the Church Lady.  That was Stuart Smalley.  But I get the picture.  You're trying to take an oblique shot at my profession.

"Unfair" was insinuated throughout your post.  It's that same thing that was said when Michael Jordan played.  Same thing when Jim Morris went back.   Way too easily thrown around.  Cliched argument that is easily debunked.

I don't know what your profession is, but I will admit I get my SNL skits mixed up.

Feeling sorry for someone does not mean it is automatically an "unfair" situation.

If a man gambles away everything, looses his job and family due to his addiction, and is on the streets I can feel sorry that he wound up there, but I don't think it was unfair that he did.

Tim Tebow will not cost anyone a shot at big league baseball.  If he gets on a roster, they won't be sitting some guy hitting .300 and driving in a lot of runs just so he can take their spot.  The guy who will sit will be the same guy who always sits - the one struggling to stay above the Mendoza line and not producing at the level he's playing at. 

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