Does anyone hear have an idea what the average pitcher throws speed wise in a Texas 5A high school league? From what I hear in Cincinnati Texas high school baseball is the best there is.
Thanks for the help.
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Depends on who's holding the radar gun 
Ain't that the truth!
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Mr. K-ECKS
Now that there is a tough question but with
a little research, I think I have found you
an answer.
You gotta realize that here in Texas, in our
5A 'league' our state leadership has broken
things down to 4 separate regions with 32
districts and i'm guessin' there are over
250 teams in this here 'league'.
You gotta unnerstand that due to the size of
Texas there are a lotta variables as to temperature and humidity and such that will
act on a kid's pitch speed.
For example- down on the gulf coast, the humidity can really make a ball heavy and
on some nights a kid pitching at say Galveston
or Corpus Delecti would have some problems
whuppin' it up to the high 70's. On the other
hand I heard about a kid out at El Paso
Mentira H.S. who was chunkin' it up there at about 108-to 110 due to the elevation and dry air.
Now you need to throw into the equation that
almost all 5A schools have at least 4 or 5
starters and figger in the fact that 37% of
them are lefties you can end up with some
pretty skewed numbers.
When all is said and done- including the hi-
tech, scientific survey that we just ran it
ends up that the average 5A Texas pitcher is
throwing it up there at 94.7 mph and it don't
matter who's holdin' the gun.
Good luck in gittin' yer Ohio boys up to
speed.
m00n
Now that there is a tough question but with
a little research, I think I have found you
an answer.
You gotta realize that here in Texas, in our
5A 'league' our state leadership has broken
things down to 4 separate regions with 32
districts and i'm guessin' there are over
250 teams in this here 'league'.
You gotta unnerstand that due to the size of
Texas there are a lotta variables as to temperature and humidity and such that will
act on a kid's pitch speed.
For example- down on the gulf coast, the humidity can really make a ball heavy and
on some nights a kid pitching at say Galveston
or Corpus Delecti would have some problems
whuppin' it up to the high 70's. On the other
hand I heard about a kid out at El Paso
Mentira H.S. who was chunkin' it up there at about 108-to 110 due to the elevation and dry air.
Now you need to throw into the equation that
almost all 5A schools have at least 4 or 5
starters and figger in the fact that 37% of
them are lefties you can end up with some
pretty skewed numbers.
When all is said and done- including the hi-
tech, scientific survey that we just ran it
ends up that the average 5A Texas pitcher is
throwing it up there at 94.7 mph and it don't
matter who's holdin' the gun.
Good luck in gittin' yer Ohio boys up to
speed.
m00n
m00n-
I believe your numbers may be just a little off... my calculations have the average up around 95.3 mph. Who knows maybe its somewhere in the middle.
I believe your numbers may be just a little off... my calculations have the average up around 95.3 mph. Who knows maybe its somewhere in the middle.
One BILLION miles an hour
Moon, I believe your calculation of 94.7 is factoring in change-ups and curve balls and knuckle balls. If we just take the average fastball speed, I believe you can add, approximately, 3.13 mph 94.7 which would make the avg fb, for HS pitchers in TX, around 97.83
Now that sounds a little more accurate... I wish the junkballing lefties weren't here to make us look like little girls.
In fairness to the visiting Buckeyes, we should reveal that Texans usually measure the speed of a fastball by taking their pitchers out on a country road and having them chunk rocks by one of those road-side speed traps. The rich schools take old baseballs -- it's easier on the catchers.
PD - i once witnessed that on old f.m. 2381
outside of amarillo back in the 60's. radar
wasn't as good then but three different Potter
County deputies came up with the same readings
and that's why i say it don't matter who's
holdin' the gun.
KIRK - you are very correct and when we took
out all the curves, slurves and knucklers-
our computer model came out to within .17
of your calculation so we'll stick with
yours.
#1 - your's is a good idea but then our pore
ole 5a coaches would be short about 462.5
pitchers and would have to go down to the
8th and 9th grade teams to fill out their
rotations.
m00n
outside of amarillo back in the 60's. radar
wasn't as good then but three different Potter
County deputies came up with the same readings
and that's why i say it don't matter who's
holdin' the gun.
KIRK - you are very correct and when we took
out all the curves, slurves and knucklers-
our computer model came out to within .17
of your calculation so we'll stick with
yours.
#1 - your's is a good idea but then our pore
ole 5a coaches would be short about 462.5
pitchers and would have to go down to the
8th and 9th grade teams to fill out their
rotations.
m00n
Everything IS bigger in Texas!
Thats right.
My faavorite 3 consecutive pitches from my lefty to a future National League Rookie of the Year were clocked at (and in this order) 52, 51, and K'd him on 50. Threw his bat too. I know an instructor who clocks all his students ~ starting at 90. That's where his gun starts IMO.
Swinger- If it's the same guy I think you're referring to, well he doesn't start at 90 mph - he starts at 80, then after lesson #1 the radar gun moves up to 83 mph, then lesson #2 - 85 - you get the drift...The next thing you know he's asking for your Master Card...."And look, Joilla!!! Your son now throws 93, I don't care what anyone else says.."
Who would this be UTPanamalum? Celina huh, why would someone from celina be on a baseball board during football season? Dont let them find out or you will be ostracized from the community, just kidding.
Brian - Don't do football....Celina's just a nice place to live....When was the last time you heard of Pan Am losing a football game??? NEVER.....